Far From Home

I have some old Jandd product that I want to replace with newer ones. They are out of stock on almost everything I want to buy and the phone is not being answered. Anyone know whats going on with them?

Far From Home

I got an email reply from them. It looks like the main item I want will be available in October.

Duragrouch

I've always like the looks of their stuff. I have an ex-police trunk bag found cheap at goodwill, sans the PD patches. They have extra-super-long rack stays for those that need (such as a well-aft rear rack on a low folding frame).

I have no idea how they are faring, be in competition, supply chain, difficulty finding labor, or stuff made overseas. They set the standard on a lot of stuff, prior to the rolltop canoe-bag-style panniers.

TiHabanero

I have been using Jandd for over 20 years and have yet to experience a zipper failure. Our shop sold Jandd for 30 years and never ever had a zipper failure reported. The cheap Chinese junk certainly did, but not Jandd.
The trunk bag I have is faded and worn, but the zippers are still as good as the day it was made. The panniers are black vs. blue for the trunk bag, and they have yet to fade. Zippers are tight and right. The handlebar bag is only 4 years old, but the zippers are still as stiff as when new. Can't say enough good things about Jandd.

As for not answering the phone, good question.

indyfabz

I have one of their seat bags for tubes and such. It has been exposed to all sorts of harsh during touring at commuting/ utility riding for well over 10 years. I’m not considering replacing it.

Duragrouch

Cordura fabric really improved on sun-fading and UV resistance for strength (polyester instead of nylon), and abrasion resistance for every application. Only thing better might be Sunbrella used on boats and awnings.

My Jandd trunk bag has a bit of fading, only noticeable because of the removal of the longtime installed police patch. The zippers are heavier gauge than most. One tooth on the zipper is gone, but it continues to function, and that kind of wear can be expected from an ex-police bag that was heavily used and cost me practically nothing used at the thrift shop. It's also a great design, with two side pockets, a top pocket, a significant explansion bellows if needed, and insulated, both for shape and temps.

TiHabanero

Duragrouch, we have the same trunk bag, albeit mine is not an ex-popo model. Packed my lunch in it for 2 solid decades and it never let me down. The side pockets hold tools and money, and the expander top proved invaluable for days when I needed to pack something extra. Brilliant design.
Was looking to get larger panniers for some multi-month tours I have planned, but changed direction and ditched the panniers altogether.

Duragrouch

I never saw them in person, but did you ever see the Expedition(?) panniers they once carried? I think they were extra long fore/aft, and possibly made from ballistic nylon (stronger than cordura, but coarser weave so not as abrasion resistant), designed for the most remote bike treks, expensive. I think empty a pair of them weighed like 5 lbs. When I first became aware of Jandd, I had changed from my road-race bike to a long wheelbase recumbent, did a couple week tour with a B.O.B. trailer, tons of space and handled fine but a lot less mobile moving the rig about. I purchased a second LWB frame but in their longest size, I had planned for me to be at forwardmost position, and use the aft frame to hang two sets of standard panniers or one set of the Jandd Expeditions, and ditch the trailer. But I never got around to building up that bike (frame has been in storage about 30 years now).

As tough as Jandds are, I have to say, if I tour again, I'll want waterproof rolltop panniers. I did have rain on my one tour, and it was a pain for the stuff in standard fabric panniers and trunk bag on the bike aft, everything was soaked. Now the stuff in the trailer, was awesome; The gear bag that came with the B.O.B. I knew would leak like a sieve (they later introduced a rolltop waterproof bag I think), but I had taken a huge rubbermaid container and heat-molded the front corners to accommodate the curved front frame on the B.O.B., such that the box snapped into place. The hinged shoebox overlap lid sealed out rain fine, and the holes in the underside of the handles let the insides breathe while not letting water in. Dry as a bone. And enough space, I could just toss my down bag inside each morning on top without hypercompressing, and that was good for bag life, and letting it dry out any sleeping moisture. These days I'd have a solar panel on top of the box. But it was just too large a rig to travel easy with, when not pedaling. And the bike and weight was not a climber, I needed lower gearing, not being able to stand on the pedals. Comfy riding though.

Now, I'll be on my folder, panniered to the max. Frame and bikepacking bags are not even a possibility on the low monobeam frame.

indyfabz

My 2011 BOB has such a bag. IIRC, the people with BOBs on my 1999 tour across the country did, too.

TiHabanero

I went through the BOB phase for about 3 years and tired of the cumbersome size of the "big rig". I believe Jandd now has PVC coated panniers, but could be mistaken. Since I put everything in a pannier in a bag for organization purposes, waterproof or not doesn't matter much to me. In 2025 the first of three legs of a tour starts and I will be using roll top dry sacks on the forks and a roll top duffle bag out back. Should work well, I hope!
For anyone out there that has PVC coated bags and have worn a hole through them, there is an easy patch solution. I use Shoe Goo to adhere Rema patches to the bag. Works like a charm. Stays flexible and stays put. I also used just Shoe Goo on a small abrasion and it is holding nicely.

Kelly I

We have a set of the Jandd Hurricane panniers that are roll top. They've seen serious use and abuse, and are still the first choice for touring. I've had several sets of Jandd panniers. The only problem with them is that they never wear out, so I don't have an excuse to buy new ones - I just have to say that I want them!

Way back when, I wanted a yellow trunk bag. Jandd would do a custom color, as long as I ordered ten. I got nine friends to buy one, and still have mine, although I haven't used it in awhile. sometimes stuff goes out of rotation and back in.

I have a BOB trailer in the basement that hasn't been used in at least five years. But I might want it again some day. You never know!