Shuffleman

I have to say that this has been an interesting thread. I do not find any problem with Performance or with Nashbar. Nor do I have a problem with BD. They have a niche and they fill it well. I do understand what people mean by Diamondback and GT cheapening their brand though when they sold off. I remember when they were more prestigious. GT was an awesome maker of mtb back in the early 90's before they got purchased by the larger company. I am a long time rider of their products. I still have my old mtb from 1993 but I would not buy a new GT. The company has lost their mojo in my opinion. Same for Diamondback.
As for Performance and Nashbar to a lesser extent, I love them. They do not carry bike brands that I want but I do not view Fuji or Ridley as "cheap" bikes. In fact, they are quite nice and just as high of quality as any other bike in their competitive range. I have a Performance near my office and visit it frequently. They are outstanding for buying racks, clothes and etc. I highly recommend them, especially to a first time buyer. They offer a great value on entry level bikes. I wish that they were open when I first started riding road bikes as I could have saved some money on my first one.
They do not sell "cheap" products. They sell all levels of grousets and etc. I happen to like Italian bikes and Campy so I can't get get those there but I can get just about anything else there and feel good about it. I love my LBS but they do not sell any clothes and their choices for most things like shoes, helmets and accessories is limited. Performance carries just about everything in the store. If they sold Colnago or De Rosa, I would definitely buy one there and not feel like it is anything less than what it is. Their Ridley Fenix is just as nice as any Trek, Specialized and etc that is equipped in a similar fashion. The fact that you can get a Ridley for those prices is awesome.

Maelochs

Another positive for Nashbar is their amazing return policy. Anyone buying a bike sight unseen has the safety net of no-questioned-asked super-cheap return.

Fox Farm

Oh yea, Youngstown, Ohio. But did I not hear that Performance owns them?

Fox Farm

And I too will say that I have no problem with Nashbar selling Lynskey. I ride a Ti Merlin and the more Ti bikes on the road is right with me! But, Lynskey is one of the premiere titanium builders out there and Nashbar is more typically associated with closeouts and more budget branded stuff - nothing at all wrong with that, however... But then again, Sierra Trading Post sells Colnogo, Time, and DeRosa frames, so go figure...

Lazyass

Yes, Performance bought Nashbar long ago. They're both under the same company.

sced

Sounds like everybody thinks highly of Nashbar as I do, so it might actually be a step up the business ladder for Lynskey.

Jarrett2

Before this thread:

Moots
Seven
Lynskey
Litespeed
.
.
.
Schwinn
Diamondback
Huffy


After this thread:

Moots
Seven
Litespeed
.
.
.
Schwinn
Diamondback
Lynskey
Huffy

rpenmanparker 

Yes, now.

rpenmanparker 

And deep down in our hearts of hearts we all really know that Moots and Seven are just blingmeisters, extracting exorbitant prices on the basis of name and mystique. Their stuff is no better than Lynskey's in any respect. And when it comes to ugly frames, no one even gets close to Seven's hybrid material glued tube and lug contraptions. Those should be against the law.

Just my opinion, freely expressed. Your comments are always welcome.

BillyD

You're either trolling or crazy.

Which is it?

BillyD

Either way, you are going to have to wash your mouth out with soap.

RPK79

Isn't Moots who invaded Spain in the 8th century?

Nachoman

Adonis72

I have nothing but good things to say about Nashbar. They offer a decent variety and some of their sales are nice! We need more US bike retailers like that.

RPK79

rpenmanparker 

Why not both?

quicktrigger

FWIW, I don't see bling in Moots frames. Have never ridden one, so no ideal about the ride. But bling? I think not. Grey is as bling free as you can get. Outside of the frame, the components are wheels, gears, brakes, handlebars etc. Nothing bling about them IMHO.

At least with Lynskey, you can get a shiny brushed Titanium frame, even if having it brushed costs and extra $300 .

indyfabz

What if they own the business that is making the Ti frames? This fellow is doing quite well: Engin Cycles | Handmade Titanium Bicycles Philadelphia, PA

rpenmanparker 

Just making the point that the difference between Moots and Lynskey is fluff, nothing of significance.

datlas 

How do you like yours??

BillyD

To each his own opinion.

PhotoJoe 

Hey...IT'S FACT. I ride a Lynskey so it would hurt my feelings if someone said Moots is better. Then again, if I had a couple extra grand laying around when I bought my Lynskey....I'd still have a Lynskey, just with better stuff hung on it!

datlas 

I considered a Lynskey several years ago, but I need custom geometry and am on a budget. Ended up with my Habanero and am pleased with it.

NormanF

Schwinn is owned by Dorel, which also owns the Cannondale, GT and Sugoi brands. Schwinn IBD bikes are high quality bikes sold through bike shops.

StanSeven

You can guess where my name came from. But if I was getting a new Ti I think it would be Moots. Just in terms of appearance, welds, and finish, I think Moots and Seven can't be beat.

I agree with you though on the Seven combo Ti and CF. It combines the worse properties of the materials instead of the best. I like the looks but not the ride.