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Old 06-04-24, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Korina
Please don't break up that beauty. If it was 17" I'd happily take the frameset off your hands; good thing for me it isn't. Good luck deciding what to do with it.
I'm pretty sure it's an 18" comparing it to the two Rockhopper Comps I have -- one a 19.5 and the other a 20.5 which both fit me fine.

So yes, I find myself on the horns of a dilemma as they say. Really too nice to break up, but I do need parts for the Bianchi Sika, though I've already checked and the rear spacing isn't the same and there might be a few other compatibility issues, bottom bracket etc.

I think it would make life much easier if I located and went with the stock Shimano Deore group the Bianchi originally came with rather than the XC Pro stuff on the Stumpy. Decisions, decisions...

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Originally Posted by Maxey
I'm pretty sure it's an 18" comparing it to the two Rockhopper Comps I have -- one a 19.5 and the other a 20.5 which both fit me fine.

So yes, I find myself on the horns of a dilemma as they say. Really too nice to break up, but I do need parts for the Bianchi Sika, though I've already checked and the rear spacing isn't the same and there might be a few other compatibility issues, bottom bracket etc.

I think it would make life much easier if I went with the stock Shimano Deore group the Bianchi originally came with rather than the XC Pro stuff on the Stumpy. Decisions, decisions...
Too bad we're not neighbors or I'd trade a nice 1987 High Sierra w Deore for it. A bit too big for me. Tho the 87 is only 6 speed so maybe wouldn't work out anyway. Check out the brakes.



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Too bad we're not neighbors or I'd trade a nice 1987 High Sierra w Deore for it. A bit too big for me. Tho the 87 is only 6 speed so maybe wouldn't work out anyway. Check out the brakes.
Nice High Sierra, SD. I've always liked the black chrome ones, a friend had one. His had the funky rollercam brakes too. Heck if I put your bar and stem on the Stumpy it would probably fit me fine!
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Here's a '91 Stumpjumper Team I picked up a few weeks ago. As far as I can tell it's completely original from the grips to the pedals to the saddle and everything else; the only exception is the tires I believe, though the rear may be original. It's one size too small for me which I knew going in; I bought it to harvest the parts for a '91 Bianchi Sika frameset in my size. Now after cleaning it up and touching up the several handfuls of chips in the paint I don't know if I have the heart to break up such a nice original.


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Wow, that's a beauty. I vote for keeping it together! In fact, it's my size so I vote for sending it to me (jk). I'm in San Diego, just fyi haha
Beauty! Looks like the same metallic purple paint on my 90's Sirrus. Keep it!!
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Beauty! Looks like the same metallic purple paint on my 90's Sirrus. Keep it!!
Yep, it's that crazy dark purple -- I thought the bike was black at first. It's a very cool color. Knowing me I'll end up keeping the bike purely as a display piece or as an occasional rider for some of my height-challenged friends.
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Originally Posted by Maxey
Here's a '91 Stumpjumper Team I picked up a few weeks ago. As far as I can tell it's completely original from the grips to the pedals to the saddle and everything else; the only exception is the tires I believe, though the rear may be original. It's one size too small for me which I knew going in; I bought it to harvest the parts for a '91 Bianchi Sika frameset in my size. Now after cleaning it up and touching up the several handfuls of chips in the paint I don't know if I have the heart to break up such a nice original.


Certainly no expert but that is a very big spacer, can't imagine the factory would do that, especially big S and the fact that these like to bend axles when ridden as intended.

And I have an 86 that is in similar shape, this one and it are amazing despite the fugly unibrow fork.
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Certainly no expert but that is a very big spacer, can't imagine the factory would do that, especially big S and the fact that these like to bend axles when ridden as intended.

And I have an 86 that is in similar shape, this one and it are amazing despite the fugly unibrow fork.
When you say spacer, are you talking about the large silver segment with the little trough in the middle of it? You know when I went to fit this rear wheel to the Bianchi I referenced earlier it was a little too wide to fit that frame which I assumed was 130, but may be 135. Either way, I don't know if the axle spacer was ever altered. I know there's another guy here on BF (don't recall his user name) that has an identical Stumpy Team so hopefully he sees this and can chime in or even provide a photo of his rear spacer setup. It does slot into the frame with no trouble, but I don't understand why someone would widen the rear triangle on what appears to be a totally stock bike. Hmmm....

I know some people can't stand unicrown forks but it doesn't bother me at all. I suppose because my first mountain bike in '89 had one and at the time I suppose it was the state of the art. I do think a nice biplane fork is very cool (my RB-1 has one), but I wonder how they compare strengthwise and purely from the standpoint of functionality. Horses for courses, I suppose.
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Originally Posted by Maxey
When you say spacer, are you talking about the large silver segment with the little trough in the middle of it? You know when I went to fit this rear wheel to the Bianchi I referenced earlier it was a little too wide to fit that frame which I assumed was 130, but may be 135. Either way, I don't know if the axle spacer was ever altered. I know there's another guy here on BF (don't recall his user name) that has an identical Stumpy Team so hopefully he sees this and can chime in or even provide a photo of his rear spacer setup. It does slot into the frame with no trouble, but I don't understand why someone would widen the rear triangle on what appears to be a totally stock bike. Hmmm....

I know some people can't stand unicrown forks but it doesn't bother me at all. I suppose because my first mountain bike in '89 had one and at the time I suppose it was the state of the art. I do think a nice biplane fork is very cool (my RB-1 has one), but I wonder how they compare strengthwise and purely from the standpoint of functionality. Horses for courses, I suppose.
Yep, that's it and I get and understand the fork deal.

Pretty sure they are stronger, way faster, easier and cheaper to make but still way too fugly IMO.


I have a last year 94 MB-1 with the Ritchey designed, beautiful grown that Grant Peterson got Tom to let him use. Tom never produced them as he realized the fugly unibrow was the path to the $$$$$ so he designed and ran with them and got all others to follow.





And my big, chrome Ritchey, original fork likely long gone, no way to know if it had a biplane but came to me with a chrome uni, at least its lugged but that's still a no for me.




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Yep, it's that crazy dark purple -- I thought the bike was black at first. It's a very cool color. Knowing me I'll end up keeping the bike purely as a display piece or as an occasional rider for some of my height-challenged friends.
Yeah most of the time my bike looks black even in pictures. Other than when the sun shines on it. lol
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Yeah most of the time my bike looks black even in pictures. Other than when the sun shines on it. lol
The 2016(?) Kona Sutra was like that; it looked black in the shop, but outside it was a deep metallic red.
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Originally Posted by Maxey
When you say spacer, are you talking about the large silver segment with the little trough in the middle of it? You know when I went to fit this rear wheel to the Bianchi I referenced earlier it was a little too wide to fit that frame which I assumed was 130, but may be 135. Either way, I don't know if the axle spacer was ever altered. I know there's another guy here on BF (don't recall his user name) that has an identical Stumpy Team so hopefully he sees this and can chime in or even provide a photo of his rear spacer setup. It does slot into the frame with no trouble, but I don't understand why someone would widen the rear triangle on what appears to be a totally stock bike. Hmmm....

I know some people can't stand unicrown forks but it doesn't bother me at all. I suppose because my first mountain bike in '89 had one and at the time I suppose it was the state of the art. I do think a nice biplane fork is very cool (my RB-1 has one), but I wonder how they compare strengthwise and purely from the standpoint of functionality. Horses for courses, I suppose.
Yes, a 1991 bike would more likely have 135 dropout spacing. I have that same GG hub on a road bike at 130 spacing and the left side spacer looks 5mm smaller than that.
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Yes, a 1991 bike would more likely have 135 dropout spacing. I have that same GG hub on a road bike at 130 spacing and the left side spacer looks 5mm smaller than that.
Thanks for the input, melville. So do you think mine is as it was originally specced? I've been wondering about it since Merziac commented on it.
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Thanks for the input, melville. So do you think mine is as it was originally specced? I've been wondering about it since Merziac commented on it.
Yes, I would expect so. I probably have that same spacer bouncing around my bin of random hub stuff from when I reduced mine to 130mm 30 years ago.

The early mountain bike component makers had a fantasy of a 'dishless' rear wheel and they did this by moving the right flange as close to the cogs as possible (Shimano Freehubs won that bit) and the left flange in a bit. This kinda died when we suddenly wanted 6S freewheels.

The Suntour hub you have was made by the same people who made the 'dishless' Specialized hubs, probably from the same forging.
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Yes, I would expect so. I probably have that same spacer bouncing around my bin of random hub stuff from when I reduced mine to 130mm 30 years ago.

The early mountain bike component makers had a fantasy of a 'dishless' rear wheel and they did this by moving the right flange as close to the cogs as possible (Shimano Freehubs won that bit) and the left flange in a bit. This kinda died when we suddenly wanted 6S freewheels.

The Suntour hub you have was made by the same people who made the 'dishless' Specialized hubs, probably from the same forging.
Thanks for all the info., Melville, you seem to really know your stuff when it comes to these early MTBs. I have my own built-in biases, of course, but I find the late eighties and early 90s MTBs the most interesting -- the bicycle and component makers made some real technological strides during that era, especially in the arena of shift quality and ease of use.

I also have a '89 Rockhopper Comp and a '91 Rockhopper Comp and the differences between them are subtle but noticeable -- you can see on the '91 the trend of slanting top tubes beginning, though it only slopes very gently and not like the later, radically sloped top tubes. I think it's fascinating to be able to see and quantify the evolution of these early(ish) MTBs. Such things are really fun to think about for a dork like me!
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So I just got handed this today, for free. Not C&V but it fits in here better then anywhere else…
2002 DB CrMo steel Specialized HardRock.

These are the “as got “ pics.

Another my sized MTB.

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Next day roll around pic. Still need a longer front DR cable but the bike feels good.

Replaced the handle bar, stem, shifters, grips and saddle. Added bottle cage and switched out the front wheel with a better one. Rear will also get switched.
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Here are 3 of mine. Schwinn PDG 30 Mostly used on dirt roads and easy trails. Mongoose PRO Rocadile , with street tires for slow rides with my wife. GT All terra , is going to be my winter beater. I have 2 more but don't have photos of them.


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Man, big fan of the GT MTB line as well but the shot of the dirt road you get to ride on is what drew my eyes to!
around here we have ones like that but they’re all on base and the MPs will confiscate your bike if they catch you.
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Where is this at? We have a lot of empty bunkers along the Marin/SF coast but have never seen one with the cannon in it.
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Where is this at? We have a lot of empty bunkers along the Marin/SF coast but have never seen one with the cannon in it.
My first guess would be the Maginot Line..
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Originally Posted by curbtender
Where is this at? We have a lot of empty bunkers along the Marin/SF coast but have never seen one with the cannon in it.
If I were to guess ...

I believe that photograph is at Longues-sur-Mer along the coastal area of Normandy, France, about ~25mi northwest of Caen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longues-sur-Mer_battery
https://www.normandie-tourisme.fr/ac...ngues-sur-mer/
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96 Bonded Trek former Naval Station Pearl Harbor Police bike. Built with parts I’ve acquired over the years, 20/34 low gear Judy with White Brothers dampener cartridge WTB front hub

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Finished overhauling the 94 Trek 850 MTB. It rides very nice but having to get use to the short Salsa MotoAce bars.

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