Retro roadies- old frames with STI's or Ergos
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Got those new Open Pro UST's it looks like, too! How do you like the ride?
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Whoa, one can barely see the frame with that background!
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Before your comment I never really thought about how much the paint is camouflaged. See below for how the frame was first built up against a grey wall
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I "upgraded" my bike with Campagnolo brifters (with the thumb lever) and I won't even ride it anymore. I'd love to change them to anything else.
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I'm guessing by your mention of the thumb lever that this is what you don't like about the Campagnolo syste?. Sram and Shimano both have slightly different designs that don't make use of a thumb shifter which I know some prefer.
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If I was ever going to move away from Campagnolo, I'd totally go to Microshift. The levers are super simple with 2 levers behind the brake lever. One to upshift the other to downshift. Dead simple. No moving of the brake lever or double clicking or whatever. If they made those with an ultrashift-like ability to drop half the cassette at a time while shifting front and back together or while making a big change (climbing into a sprint?), they might overtake Campagnolo for me, if for no other reason than the ability to use the more cheaply available (and more easy to find) Shimano-compatible components and wider range cassettes.
#8110
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All campy shifters have the thumb button. It's a pretty polarizing design.
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I turn 50 next month but am still charging around like a young un doing big miles, and that Simoncini has had a lot of use as my work bike over recent years. I figure over the coming decades I can raise the stem a fair bit if my back gives out, so I've got a while yet on those 2 small ones I hope
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I HAVE heard of extended thumb buttons on some models, and I think even 3d printed thumb buttons that can be made/
My problem I believe is the same as everyone: I can't upshift when I am in the drops.
I just measured my thumbs, and they are 65mm long from web to tip FWIW.
#8113
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I think that might be about bar rotation/lever location on the bar as much as thumb length (but then I have fairly long thumbs so the fact that I don't have problem shifting from the hooks). Oh wait, you said drops, not hooks, I'm not sure anyone can shift from down there if you're not on bar ends.
#8114
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Thank you. I have many "swap meet" Campagnolo brifters, that have yet to be used. I went and dug through that bin last night, and they all have a "thumb button". I thought I was perhaps buying the wrong versions!
I HAVE heard of extended thumb buttons on some models, and I think even 3d printed thumb buttons that can be made/
My problem I believe is the same as everyone: I can't upshift when I am in the drops.
I just measured my thumbs, and they are 65mm long from web to tip FWIW.
I HAVE heard of extended thumb buttons on some models, and I think even 3d printed thumb buttons that can be made/
My problem I believe is the same as everyone: I can't upshift when I am in the drops.
I just measured my thumbs, and they are 65mm long from web to tip FWIW.
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I think that might be about bar rotation/lever location on the bar as much as thumb length (but then I have fairly long thumbs so the fact that I don't have problem shifting from the hooks). Oh wait, you said drops, not hooks, I'm not sure anyone can shift from down there if you're not on bar ends.
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These are my owned-since-new '89 SuperGo Access Comp drop bar conversion with Tourney 3x7, and '90 B'stone RB-1 on it's third group set, now a mixture of Shimano 105 and Ultegra 10 speed.
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Honestly, I've heard it both ways with drops meaning what some people call the hooks to some but drops meaning the bottom of the curve for other people. When I first responded, I was calling it drops too, but then googled and went with hooks based on googling making hooks seem more common.
#8118
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Anyone here know what to do with odd-shaped downtube shifter bosses? I bought some concave dura ace cable stops, but it seems they are stuck sitting atop a square on the downtube, leaving an unsightly gap between the cable stop and the tube. I would consider just carving out the square part of the cable stop, but as you can see in the pic, it looks like I'll then run up against whatever part attaches the square to the frame itself.
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1991 Zullo with 11 speed Campagnolo Athena.
1989 David Tesch S-22 with a mix of Campagnolo Record/Super Record 11 speed.
1989 David Tesch S-22 with a mix of Campagnolo Record/Super Record 11 speed.
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If I was ever going to move away from Campagnolo, I'd totally go to Microshift. The levers are super simple with 2 levers behind the brake lever. One to upshift the other to downshift. Dead simple. No moving of the brake lever or double clicking or whatever. If they made those with an ultrashift-like ability to drop half the cassette at a time while shifting front and back together or while making a big change (climbing into a sprint?), they might overtake Campagnolo for me, if for no other reason than the ability to use the more cheaply available (and more easy to find) Shimano-compatible components and wider range cassettes.
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Better than doubletap for SRAM or a moving brake lever for shimano. Given that I don't have a problem reaching the thumb lever on my Campagnolo ergos, I don't see the need to switch, but, if I was wanting to build up a wide range gravel bike, the microshift levers would be my way to go. Well, besides the Kelly Take Offs with 10 speed DA dountube shifters that are going on the Schwinn Voyageur that I'm building up next, but everyone thinks those are too ugly.
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Better than doubletap for SRAM or a moving brake lever for shimano. Given that I don't have a problem reaching the thumb lever on my Campagnolo ergos, I don't see the need to switch, but, if I was wanting to build up a wide range gravel bike, the microshift levers would be my way to go. Well, besides the Kelly Take Offs with 10 speed DA dountube shifters that are going on the Schwinn Voyageur that I'm building up next, but everyone thinks those are too ugly.
Di2 is nice when you don't need to shift, you know indoor trainer bikes and the like.
I've ridden Campagnolo mechanical on borrowed mates bikes, F that ! The newer carbon stuff is fugly too, the 4 arm cranks and the rear derailleurs (OMG what are those?) yuck. The older silver stuff at least looked good and R11 and SR11 5 arm cranks are probably the best looking cranks in the history of cranks.
This is just my opinion and experience, YMMV, yadda yadda yadda.