Lombard

Same here, although that's mostly because I'm a klutz and would eventually stub or break a toe on furniture.

livedarklions

Great example of reversing the burden of proof. Even if there are effects, why would we assume they were good? Is there any evidence that shoeless people are more or less healthy? How many of these people extolling the benefits of the earth's electromagnetic forces are also decrying the microwave bombardment we're constantly faced with? What's the frequency, Kenneth?

tomato coupe

Yeah, I thought gravel was the new black.

PeteHski

I'm merely suggesting that there "may" be some real physiological effects of grounding. I'm not reversing the burden of proof at all. I'm just pointing out that grounding is at least a real physical phenomena, whether or not beneficial to our health.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3576907/

https://harmony783.com/blogs/groundi...lood-viscosity

It could all be a scam to sell a few related products, but it doesn't strike me as such. It's hardly "big bike" is it? The author appears to be a legit cardiologist (possibly an outlier?) and there are plenty of other physicians who agree with his findings. As I say I haven't really looked deep into this, but I wouldn't rule it out as pure fantasy. Are there any sources debunking the theory that blood viscosity and other effects may be effected by grounding? Of course there are:-

https://borntolivebarefoot.org/earth...day-snake-oil/

What is fairly clear is that mainstream medicine doesn't really research any of this. But then that's all about peddling drugs anyway isn't it? So who knows?

So if there are some effects, why would we assume they were good? Well maybe because we evolved in that specific environment before partially isolating ourselves from it? Much of our modern life tends to be pretty negative to our health as we gradually detach ourselves from the natural world we evolved in.
Now I don't go out of my way to ground myself every day and I'm certainly not buying any grounding products, but I still think there could be something in it and wouldn't automatically dismiss it out of hand. I certainly wouldn't put it in the same category as ghosts and other supernatural bs.

Eric F 

If your gravel is red, you might have been earthing a little too hard.

Eric F 

I wouldn't call myself a klutz, but the mapping function in my brain tends to plot direct routes to destinations without proper regard for furniture locations. My toes have suffered much because of this issue.

Lombard

Hey, I'm going to use that line! "I'm not a klutz. My brain just maps direct routes to destinations without regard for obstacles."

livedarklions

The cardiologist in question "also created an amazing high vibrational food company, vervana" He claims being a Dr. Oz guest as being a credit.
Quacks like a duck to me.

The article you keep linking is from the "Journal of Alternative and Complementary Medicine"--in other words. it's a journal dedicated to non-scientific "medicine."

This doesn't pass the smell test at all. You know as well as I do how weak these magnetic forces are as compared to the man-made electromagnetic radiation we are constantly bombarded with.

Walking around in the grass or on a beach barefoot is pleasant and it makes me feel good. I don't need a mumbo jumbo nonsense explanation for that. And assuming something is "good" because we "evolved" in it is the classic naturalistic fallacy. If it was so great, why did we evolve the ability to make shoes?

Juan Foote

This is among a short list of good things about having a prosthesis. I can slam that toe/foot into anything and have to check the furniture or door frame for damage rather than hopping around crying about it. Nothing quite like slamming that little toe into something hard.

PeteHski

I'm well aware it could be misled, but I'm not sure that alternative and complementary medicine and science are mutually exclusive. But this is not my specialist subject by a long way! Anyway feel free to consider grounding as mumbo jumbo nonsense. To me it's a real phenomena, whether it has any real physiological consequences or not. That's the unknown for me and mainstream medicine appears uninterested in investigating - so probably not enough money in the game. I don't really get the link between grounding and man-made electromagnetic radiation either.

PeteHski

There's this too

https://www.ultimatelongevity.com/ea...e.shtml?ref=18

Looks like the "grounding" therapy was positive or was it something else, lol.

RH Clark

Stress is a major cause of poor health. Anything you can do to relieve a bit has to be good for you. I can see how walking barefoot might just disconnect the brain from its normal patterns enough to have a meditation effect. Any activity which takes your mind totally into that second-by-second existence is a form of meditation.

Lombard

Although I'm sure that prosthesis isn't cheap if you break it. It just hurts in a different way.

Lombard

With an emphasis on QUACK.

Dr. Oz admitted to drinking his own urine:

PeteHski

My dogs do that too. So maybe it's a natural instinct we have somehow lost touch with?

rosefarts

Ancient photo of me barefoot.





I never felt better. Of course being in my 20’s probably had a lot more to do with that than being barefoot.

I do think there is something to all that though, something like Wim Hof, or barefoot on the dirt, or cold wind numbing out your jaw on a ride. I think there are measurable benefits from putting your body into uncomfortable situations.

Ive certainly been destroyed from work or lack of workout, stuff, tight, mind scattered. A week in the desert (or mountains) tends to leave me feeling a whole lot better than a week of being home would have.

livedarklions

I'm ok with that.

Lombard

Dogs also eat their own and each others vomit. Would you try that?

rosefarts

We simply can’t use dogs at all when we talk about anything “natural”. They are probably the most GMO organism on the planet.

I particularly love when a commercial for dog food comes on the TV. Wolf imagery, epic wild, powerful running. I look over to my beloved beast, 4 feet in the air laying in front of the fireplace.

PeteHski

You realise I was just joking right? I'm not seriously going to copy my dog's various disgusting habits. Their latest one is eating rabbit poop btw.

Lombard

Kinda figured you were joking, but who knows? This is a strange world.

Seriously, it is not unusual for dogs to eat the feces of their prey.

rsbob 

Always thought that was called asphalt.

rsbob 

Our rabbit poop eater. Loves the stuff. That’s what I call getting a bit too close to the earth.

livedarklions

Obviously, it was Earthing Practiced Outside (EPO).

Lombard

Why not get it before the flies do?