Doge

Actually did look good. Intelligentsia Cup 2017 powered by SRAM - Chicago Bike Races - Racer Information
If this were shifted a week earlier it would be perfect.
This year junior's break is from June 23-July 16, but following years he will likely have double that time. We head to Chicago a lot for his sister's college, but she's graduating.

I'm looking at the other suggestions. Might do a fondo - https://deathride.com/ but can't post about that on the race forum.

aaronmcd

Should I register for King Ridge Grasshopper on May 6th, or hold off and see if this King City road race will happen? I'm thinking the hopper is more fun, but not sure how well my S5 can handle it. And it's not USAC

Doge

Puppy will will have more time to train soon and so looking like last weekend of TOAD and U23 Nats might be fun.

I'm very excited about some next year options for those elite cyclists that put career over cycling.

revchuck 

[MENTION=364302]Doge[/MENTION], you trust autocorrect too much.

Doge

I can't spell well, I don't pay attention, I have excellent grammar (or the tests say I do) and I post at the least focused times of the day.

Anyway future stuff looks - !!!

And I do mostly B2B commerce things where carrier is very important. Esp Amazon who whats to OK the carrier before you ship.

Ygduf

you can't? or you don't?

Doge

Don't

spdntrxi

or won't.... it's the inter webs after all.

Doge

I could and I would, but I do not.
It is what I do not do.
Won't is what I will not do.

They are not the same.

Less grammar and more vocabulary.

mike868y

intelligentsia is now 10 straight days of racing, no recovery days. super excited.

they've also added a straight 3 field for most days. leaves me a little conflicted about which field to do. on the one hand, it would be nice to theoretically get some decent results there. on the other hand, i think racing the 2/3 fields was really good for me in terms of both fitness and pack/handling skills and I would be bummed to miss out on that.

Wylde06

I want to do that series one year. I did 3 of the races a few years ago and although I did awful, I still had fun while I was there

superdex

Oz Road Race, Saturday 6 May. MM40+ 4/5 ... though if there was such a thing as a 5/6 that's where I really belong.

https://www.whitelinecycling.com/cop...on-race-info-1

38mi, 500ish ft of elevation. Looks like it won't be too windy, which would blow things a part. Rode the route today, the mile of dirt is really loose and will have to stay on the left. https://www.strava.com/activities/967899086

Goal: stay in contact.

wktmeow

What the heck, the stage race I wanted to come up to the Bay for just released their technical guide and it says that the TT will be road bike only for all but the pro field. Kind of don't want to do it now, since the prologue and road race don't suit me at all. Figured at least with a good TT I could redeem myself, but most of my speed comes from my position on that bike

My road position isn't half bad either, just not sure if it'd be enough to do well. Plus I was kind of looking forward to riding the TT bike for this.

May just skip the race entirely and just ride with friends or maybe do a group ride instead.

Ygduf

honestly that was going to be a dangerous TT on TT bikes. maybe not the worst decision

scheibo

yeah, i was pretty crushed when i saw that. i find it unfair that i can't pay for an unfair advantage over my competitors. it also seems like the GC is going to be based on points, omnium-style instead of cumulative time + bonuses? even more dumb - now i cant just do a good prologue and TT and surf wheels. and now the crit actually matters instead of being a parade!

bummed, but i guess i'll just need to find a way to do well in spite of all that. part of me is excited its a merckx TT because a) i don't actually need to stress about whether i'd feel safe on the fast descent or crosswinds on my TT bike and b) whenever i enter merckx TTs theres never really any competition because all the 'real' TTers do the regular category. now i'll actually be able to see how i stack up.

globecanvas

wktmeow

Is it just a really windy course?

Wonder why they didn't opt to do the Calaveras TT course

wktmeow

can't tell if sarcasm lol

I was never really going to be in contention for the GC anyway, what with all the climbing up Mt. Hamilton, but I wanted to do well in the TT mostly, and in the crit secondly

I'll have to think some more about it. It does seem a bit less stressful to go up and just visit with friends and get some fun riding in, instead of running around to a bunch of different race venues.

Ygduf

I think part of Calaveras washed away?

It's windy and very fast. Pretty easy to cruise at 40mph on a road bike for sections of that road. Speeds on a TT bike would be probably beyond what I would feel great with, and I'm not the worst on a tt bike.

Ygduf

sort of sarcasm, I bet. TT is the one race where you really can buy improvement!

scheibo

its halfway between sarcasm and honesty. i loved the idea of being able to buy a 2-3mph advantage, and i would love to have a race where all that matters is fitness and training (ie/ the prologue and TT, or the road race if i just had to stay with the lead group and never try to win) as opposed to ever having to use my brain or rely on race craft. the fact that theres a TT means i could beat my pure climber friends, and i'd just have to stay upright during the crit.

with the way the race is now it is much more open - i still think i could go top-5, but there's many more racers i now need to be concerned about, and the result won't be guaranteed before the crit is finished. i understand this makes the race more desirable for a lot of people who dont want to pay $160 to participate in a race they'll never be able to win, but i was just hoping there'd be *one* race that let me shine.

maybe i'll have better luck with cascade, though i feel that field will be more competitive and the parcours will be less friendly to me.

TBF, outside of the road race start all the 'race venues' can be reached trivially from parking in the same place - theyre all very close together (including road race finish).

yup. if theres a tailwind you can trivially get over 40mph on a road bike (less than 200W), would probably pass 50mph pretty easily on a TT bike. if thats a crosswind you're pretty miserable. there's a reason there's tons of windmills out there.

hack

I haven't seen the Tech guide ... RedKite is blocked here in the office. I thought the "elite" fields were going to be a typical stage race and the masters fields were going to be a points omniums? Sounds like all fields are points omniums, but masters can pick and choose which stages they enter?

scheibo

yes, thats how i understand it. from the guide (just a drive link, so should be unblocked):

"ARTICLE 13- STAGE RACE AND OMNIUM GENERAL CLASSIFICATION SCORING

General Classification points for the stage race and omnium are assigned for finishing order of each
stage, as well as bonus points for the top three KOM leaders at the Mt Hamilton Road Race, as well
as primes at Stage Three – The Red Kite Memorial Day Criterium as follows:"

aaronmcd

I'm not following that race closely for obvious reasons, but I did notice it said TT uses UCI legal bike. What? I hope he means USAC legal?

Edit, can't find the reference anymore. Must have been on an old version of the flyer

hack

Got it, thanks!


Just notice the crit is at the Livermore course. For some reason, I thought they were incorporating the Memorial Day crit from Morgan Hill.