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Oh in case anyone is interested, here is the Kutztown Donuts route for Saturday. It's kinda flat but that's what my friends prefer. It's also kinda short but I can ride to/from the start to get an extra 18 miles so ALMOST a century.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37360142
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37360142
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Well, at least there aren't lions and tigers and bears roaming the area
https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-025081803818
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Oh in case anyone is interested, here is the Kutztown Donuts route for Saturday. It's kinda flat but that's what my friends prefer. It's also kinda short but I can ride to/from the start to get an extra 18 miles so ALMOST a century.
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37360142
https://ridewithgps.com/routes/37360142
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I guess 4700 in 80 could be called "hilly".
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This is where I have to ask, how do you keep your chest from asploding?
I'd have to look long and far to find a route with 100'/mile around here. Prolly why there is no Tour de Tejas on the pro circuit. There is a local annual Tour de Italia ride that is about 26'/mile over a metric.
I'd have to look long and far to find a route with 100'/mile around here. Prolly why there is no Tour de Tejas on the pro circuit. There is a local annual Tour de Italia ride that is about 26'/mile over a metric.
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This is where I have to ask, how do you keep your chest from asploding?
I'd have to look long and far to find a route with 100'/mile around here. Prolly why there is no Tour de Tejas on the pro circuit. There is a local annual Tour de Italia ride that is about 26'/mile over a metric.
I'd have to look long and far to find a route with 100'/mile around here. Prolly why there is no Tour de Tejas on the pro circuit. There is a local annual Tour de Italia ride that is about 26'/mile over a metric.
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The route we used to do a lot in summer is an out and back of 80 miles with over 8k. It's not bad because there is nothing super steep and elevation tops out @7900.
Essentially it has 4 climbs around 5 miles each and a bunch of smaller climbs. There is climbing going both ways but more on the way out.
The Mount Baldy Village ride is 63 miles with 6300 feet, going the long way, or 50 ish miles with over 5k feet the short way. Most of the climbing is on the way up, so it's harder to me. It's basically a 25 mile climb.
There is a century I've done a few times that has 10k. It's another out and back but has steep climbs both ways, including at the end. To me, it's brutal.
There are a lot of variables besides the actual feet per mile average. Where the climbs are in the ride, road surface, and how hard you're pushing. Not to mention if you have the gear you need. I need a lower gear than a goat like datlas when things get steep.
Essentially it has 4 climbs around 5 miles each and a bunch of smaller climbs. There is climbing going both ways but more on the way out.
The Mount Baldy Village ride is 63 miles with 6300 feet, going the long way, or 50 ish miles with over 5k feet the short way. Most of the climbing is on the way up, so it's harder to me. It's basically a 25 mile climb.
There is a century I've done a few times that has 10k. It's another out and back but has steep climbs both ways, including at the end. To me, it's brutal.
There are a lot of variables besides the actual feet per mile average. Where the climbs are in the ride, road surface, and how hard you're pushing. Not to mention if you have the gear you need. I need a lower gear than a goat like datlas when things get steep.
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Screw climbing.
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IMO the key to doing well on hills is do NOT go into the red zone. Stay just below your FTP, where the pace/effort is sustainable. Maybe go into the red zone briefly if needed near the top when you can recover on the descent.
Oh, and hollow bones/bird DNA helps too.
Oh, and hollow bones/bird DNA helps too.
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I don't particularly like climbing, even though at 66 kg (145 lbs) I'm supposed to be good at it. I was good at it too, until I started racing P/1/2. When I'm going real good I can put out a 5.0 w/kg 20 min number on a climb, but even that's not gonna be a top time in my fields.
I prefer going fast - I find it more fun and easier to push myself when I'm feeling some speed! Crit, track, TT/TTT etc. Let's get up the road/in a break!
I have been particularly enjoying TTT the last few seasons - winning team from 2019 SCNCA elites (still holds due to pandemic), course record at local series (Fiesta Island).
I prefer going fast - I find it more fun and easier to push myself when I'm feeling some speed! Crit, track, TT/TTT etc. Let's get up the road/in a break!
I have been particularly enjoying TTT the last few seasons - winning team from 2019 SCNCA elites (still holds due to pandemic), course record at local series (Fiesta Island).
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See there? You're catching my drift. I'm tempted to do the same here. We're on a tiered water plan, because they have to pay for the increased capacity for all the multi-family dwellings they're building. Permanent construction adding big ol honkin water infrastructure. Gotta have that tax base, you know.
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That said, I've never endured a "real" climb, and I'm sure that I would feel some sense of satisfaction upon cresting after a long effort.
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