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https://road.cc/content/tech-news/ne...roupset-277779
Anyone care to comment??
p.s. it's possible early peek into next update to Shimano road groupset
Anyone care to comment??
p.s. it's possible early peek into next update to Shimano road groupset
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I'm going to need to pick up a bunch of windfall, before I cut the next lawn. Also, annoying.
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If you throw your back out, you'll have a hell of a time getting that thing out of the crawlspace, won't you?
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It's on wheels, so maybe I can ride it out? Might need help pumping up the tires which are totally flat.
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Yeah, it's huge, but the data look pretty good, assuming there isn't interpolation. Downsampling or a running average wouldn't create such a physiological-looking picture and the data appear to be shown at the native sampling rate of 1 Hz. However, there could certainly be something funny going on. Also, felt fairly strong and killed some segment times and if you look a the W'bal, I was deep in oxygen debt. I was with a big group, so I didn't look down at the display much.
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I'm also claustrophobic, which prevents me doing much more than sticking my head in before I get overwhelmed by the fear of the house falling on me and me being trapped between two of the floor joists.... *shudder*
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Okay, I just need to find a good spot. It may take me a while.
Actually, I've been thinking about adding some weight training over the winter, maybe two sessions per week or so. While it's been fun to work on my FTP and endurance rides this year, I think that I may embrace my skew towards short term power. When you do weight work, do you keep track of that in terms of fatigue? Or just go by feel?
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Actually, I've been thinking about adding some weight training over the winter, maybe two sessions per week or so. While it's been fun to work on my FTP and endurance rides this year, I think that I may embrace my skew towards short term power. When you do weight work, do you keep track of that in terms of fatigue? Or just go by feel?
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Squats and deads, and you can add lunges in there too. I do lunges with a bar on my shoulders, mainly for the core thing. They suck, back and forward, long steps. That's for a little later. First, acclimation is key. Squats with the bar, and make sure form is good. Use your phone, and review, and make sure your upper leg is below level. Your phone won't lie. If your form is good, then add a little weight. 60-80 pounds x40-50 reps. You'll be breathing hard by the time you're done, and then you'll be done for a week. For the next few days, walking will be a chore you don't even want to do. Then you start going 2 or 3 x20 reps. Increasing 5 each day if you're going 3 times a week. That's for the first three weeks. If you're still increasing weight, that's good. You may fail, and if so, reset down. Take a week off, and restart 20 pounds below max weight, and you'll go 4x10, adding 5 pound a session for three weeks. Deads, do 2x10 at the same weights you're doing on squats, throughout. Form and form. Keep recording. Oh, make sure form is good.
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Okay, I just need to find a good spot. It may take me a while.
Actually, I've been thinking about adding some weight training over the winter, maybe two sessions per week or so. While it's been fun to work on my FTP and endurance rides this year, I think that I may embrace my skew towards short term power. When you do weight work, do you keep track of that in terms of fatigue? Or just go by feel?
Pass.
Actually, I've been thinking about adding some weight training over the winter, maybe two sessions per week or so. While it's been fun to work on my FTP and endurance rides this year, I think that I may embrace my skew towards short term power. When you do weight work, do you keep track of that in terms of fatigue? Or just go by feel?
Pass.
Oops. I didn't answer as far as feel goes. Go til fail, and go 3 weeks on, 1 week off.
Bike messes with weights, and weights mess with the bike. Always keep that in mind when you're doing both.
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My crawlspace is only 3' tall, so I can't imagine riding anything out of it.
I'm also claustrophobic, which prevents me doing much more than sticking my head in before I get overwhelmed by the fear of the house falling on me and me being trapped between two of the floor joists.... *shudder*
I'm also claustrophobic, which prevents me doing much more than sticking my head in before I get overwhelmed by the fear of the house falling on me and me being trapped between two of the floor joists.... *shudder*
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Yeah, it's huge, but the data look pretty good, assuming there isn't interpolation. Downsampling or a running average wouldn't create such a physiological-looking picture and the data appear to be shown at the native sampling rate of 1 Hz. However, there could certainly be something funny going on. Also, felt fairly strong and killed some segment times and if you look a the W'bal, I was deep in oxygen debt. I was with a big group, so I didn't look down at the display much.
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If my max is 177, where it was before today, I hit that all the time. That's only about 1.1 x my well-established threshold HR and, while it's not how I'd choose to spend the rest of my life, it's certainly bearable for a few seconds.
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Maybe you and WhyFi just ain't got no W'bal. :Þ :Þ :Þ
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Okay, I just need to find a good spot. It may take me a while.
Actually, I've been thinking about adding some weight training over the winter, maybe two sessions per week or so. While it's been fun to work on my FTP and endurance rides this year, I think that I may embrace my skew towards short term power. When you do weight work, do you keep track of that in terms of fatigue? Or just go by feel?
Pass.
Actually, I've been thinking about adding some weight training over the winter, maybe two sessions per week or so. While it's been fun to work on my FTP and endurance rides this year, I think that I may embrace my skew towards short term power. When you do weight work, do you keep track of that in terms of fatigue? Or just go by feel?
Pass.
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Ehh.
Stressed as hell with two all-day work meetings on Monday and Tuesday, which meant no riding (and ran late enough to unexpectedly keep me from COTA). Still tired. So while I could say "better" I don't trust my emotions like at all.
Stressed as hell with two all-day work meetings on Monday and Tuesday, which meant no riding (and ran late enough to unexpectedly keep me from COTA). Still tired. So while I could say "better" I don't trust my emotions like at all.
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Squats and deads, and you can add lunges in there too. I do lunges with a bar on my shoulders, mainly for the core thing. They suck, back and forward, long steps. That's for a little later. First, acclimation is key. Squats with the bar, and make sure form is good. Use your phone, and review, and make sure your upper leg is below level. Your phone won't lie. If your form is good, then add a little weight. 60-80 pounds x40-50 reps. You'll be breathing hard by the time you're done, and then you'll be done for a week. For the next few days, walking will be a chore you don't even want to do. Then you start going 2 or 3 x20 reps. Increasing 5 each day if you're going 3 times a week. That's for the first three weeks. If you're still increasing weight, that's good. You may fail, and if so, reset down. Take a week off, and restart 20 pounds below max weight, and you'll go 4x10, adding 5 pound a session for three weeks. Deads, do 2x10 at the same weights you're doing on squats, throughout. Form and form. Keep recording. Oh, make sure form is good.
Everything this guy does is gold. He's over the top, but he's good.
Everything this guy does is gold. He's over the top, but he's good.
I used to do some heavy leg work when I was a yute - I really used to have some thunder quads in my late-teens - early twenties. That was before bike riding, unfortunately. I'd kind of like to see what I can do now, though - I'd really like to hit some new 3sec and 15sec PRs come spring.
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As I understand it, there are two energy (work) compartments. The first is aerobic and is essentially limitless for model purposes, but can only sustain subthreshold efforts. The second is anaerobic, adds to the aerobic process to get you over threshold, and is quickly depleted. It is restored when effort is reduced and the anaerobic process is turned down. W' is your anearobic work capacity in joules. W'bal is how much of it you have left at a given point.
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You need to define W' before the field will pop up, I think. I have the field enabled, but without a W' figure, it just doesn't even pop up.
Hey man - I got matches. Only two, but they're big ones.
Maybe you and WhyFi just ain't got no W'bal. :Þ :Þ :Þ
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You know that 'shattered' feeling you get from a really exhausting workout? That was me the rest of the day. So I figured that was probably my maximum.
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As I understand it, there are two energy (work) compartments. The first is aerobic and is essentially limitless for model purposes, but can only sustain subthreshold efforts. The second is anaerobic, adds to the aerobic process to get you over threshold, and is quickly depleted. It is restored when effort is reduced and the anaerobic process is turned down. W' is your anearobic work capacity in joules. W'bal is how much of it you have left at a given point.