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Major pre-Black Friday score for WhyFi Wood Works - new benchtop thickness planer.
A local retailer is promoting a deep discount on the machine, but they're not carrying it in stock, they're back-ordered by a few weeks, and it's being drop-shipped (with a not-insignificant shipping fee) from the manufacturer. I went to my preferred shop and asked if they were doing any kind of a deal on it, not expecting a match, but hoping for a little break. The guy that I spoke with wasn't aware of the deal at the other shop, so I filled him in with all of the above details. His response was no, they're not doing any kind of match or discount. Cool - no harm, no foul.
I obviously decided to look around the toy store, since I was there, and a few minutes later, the salesman comes back and says, "I'm actually kind of surprised, but we'll match that price. We have one in stock - do you want it?"
I tried not to throw up red flags by looking stunned - instant gratification and I don't have to pay the heavy shipping fee? "Oh, cool. Yeah - I'll do that."
A local retailer is promoting a deep discount on the machine, but they're not carrying it in stock, they're back-ordered by a few weeks, and it's being drop-shipped (with a not-insignificant shipping fee) from the manufacturer. I went to my preferred shop and asked if they were doing any kind of a deal on it, not expecting a match, but hoping for a little break. The guy that I spoke with wasn't aware of the deal at the other shop, so I filled him in with all of the above details. His response was no, they're not doing any kind of match or discount. Cool - no harm, no foul.
I obviously decided to look around the toy store, since I was there, and a few minutes later, the salesman comes back and says, "I'm actually kind of surprised, but we'll match that price. We have one in stock - do you want it?"
I tried not to throw up red flags by looking stunned - instant gratification and I don't have to pay the heavy shipping fee? "Oh, cool. Yeah - I'll do that."
#6952
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#6953
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Speaking of Hot Deals, Rapha has a nice deal going on their Core Flyweight jerseys - two for $120 (they're normally $80 each). I saw this right after placing an order on some other stuff and was temped to get a couple of these, too. Hell, I still might....
#6954
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I have been up there a lot and I love the road. 100 feet per mile just about every ride but nothing too steep and when it's quiet it's great. There are gates at various places and when any of the gates are closed it's the best.
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#6956
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Major pre-Black Friday score for WhyFi Wood Works - new benchtop thickness planer.
A local retailer is promoting a deep discount on the machine, but they're not carrying it in stock, they're back-ordered by a few weeks, and it's being drop-shipped (with a not-insignificant shipping fee) from the manufacturer. I went to my preferred shop and asked if they were doing any kind of a deal on it, not expecting a match, but hoping for a little break. The guy that I spoke with wasn't aware of the deal at the other shop, so I filled him in with all of the above details. His response was no, they're not doing any kind of match or discount. Cool - no harm, no foul.
I obviously decided to look around the toy store, since I was there, and a few minutes later, the salesman comes back and says, "I'm actually kind of surprised, but we'll match that price. We have one in stock - do you want it?"
I tried not to throw up red flags by looking stunned - instant gratification and I don't have to pay the heavy shipping fee? "Oh, cool. Yeah - I'll do that."
A local retailer is promoting a deep discount on the machine, but they're not carrying it in stock, they're back-ordered by a few weeks, and it's being drop-shipped (with a not-insignificant shipping fee) from the manufacturer. I went to my preferred shop and asked if they were doing any kind of a deal on it, not expecting a match, but hoping for a little break. The guy that I spoke with wasn't aware of the deal at the other shop, so I filled him in with all of the above details. His response was no, they're not doing any kind of match or discount. Cool - no harm, no foul.
I obviously decided to look around the toy store, since I was there, and a few minutes later, the salesman comes back and says, "I'm actually kind of surprised, but we'll match that price. We have one in stock - do you want it?"
I tried not to throw up red flags by looking stunned - instant gratification and I don't have to pay the heavy shipping fee? "Oh, cool. Yeah - I'll do that."
Last weekend we bought some glass pieces for the house. Since it was a pretty big spend, I asked the shop owner for a 15% discount. He said okay without any questioning. Ended up getting one piece for free essentially. My wife was surprised. She just doesn't understand that everything is negotiable, and the worst they can say is "no."
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Ahh. Thanks for the correction. That's not a name I'm familiar with. Thurlow used to rip our legs off at the Tues/Thurs Rose Bowl ride. Fun times.
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#6959
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I'd do that in a heartbeat - if it paid enough.
There is a new guy in the LBS that I've been getting to know. He's about my age and must be retired from some other career because he has a plane and a Porsche that he tracks. Can't imagine a Trek store pays enough to support those hobbies.
There is a new guy in the LBS that I've been getting to know. He's about my age and must be retired from some other career because he has a plane and a Porsche that he tracks. Can't imagine a Trek store pays enough to support those hobbies.
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#6961
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There isn't much shoulder for most of it and traffic is the worst on the lower 9 mile section from Highway 210 up to Clear Creek. In the summer we like to drive up to the turn off for Mount Wilson and ride from there. Traffic is light after that most of the time. There are some car clubs sometimes and motorcycles, too. Those drivers are usually pretty cool. The worst is after a snow storm if the gates are open. Then you get a lot of knuckleheads looking for snow who may not have the skill to be driving up there. Last summer was crazy with the pandemic closures. Lots of racers driving too fast.
I have been up there a lot and I love the road. 100 feet per mile just about every ride but nothing too steep and when it's quiet it's great. There are gates at various places and when any of the gates are closed it's the best.
I have been up there a lot and I love the road. 100 feet per mile just about every ride but nothing too steep and when it's quiet it's great. There are gates at various places and when any of the gates are closed it's the best.
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So 100 feet/mile is perfect for me. I had bad experiences riding the PCH from Santa Monica to Topanga Canyon this past summer. The area by the Getty Mansion was especially unnerving as there was lots of traffic at highway speed and minimal shoulder. I do not recommend it unless absolutely necessary.
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So 100 feet/mile is perfect for me. I had bad experiences riding the PCH from Santa Monica to Topanga Canyon this past summer. The area by the Getty Mansion was especially unnerving as there was lots of traffic at highway speed and minimal shoulder. I do not recommend it unless absolutely necessary.
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Good suggestion. Luckily, this trip we hope/plan to have a car rental, so if necessary I can drive and/or get mrs datlas to drop me off to avoid any highways. I am also hopeful the FOAF I borrowed the Felt Aluminum bike from will let me borrow it again. Bike rentals are hit/miss.
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When I was on part of the TA in 2014 I camped with a bunch of people in Jackson, MT, including a guy who was in the race. He proudly told a couple of us that he was not in last place but rather in second to last place. Later that evening, a guy travelling really lightly passed the hot springs resort where we were camping. I did not have to heart to tell mister next to last that he might now be last.
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Just did a lap through the new Zwift Neokyo map. Man, as I noted on my Strava log, that was fast... too fast. Wrong fast.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
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A friend who is an ex pro started the ride 40ish years ago. The official start is in Van Nuys but I've always skipped the ride across the valley floor and just ridden from home. There have been 200 riders some years and hardly any riders other years, like after the Station Fire. Some riders don't anticipate the freezing 35 mph descent while wet from the climb and go up without any extra layers. One time my friend drove up and had hot coffee and snacks for our group. This guy in the short sleeves was hanging around trying to score a jacket or something for the descent. I think she gave him some paper to stuff in his jersey.
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Just did a lap through the new Zwift Neokyo map. Man, as I noted on my Strava log, that was fast... too fast. Wrong fast.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
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Just did a lap through the new Zwift Neokyo map. Man, as I noted on my Strava log, that was fast... too fast. Wrong fast.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
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Just did a lap through the new Zwift Neokyo map. Man, as I noted on my Strava log, that was fast... too fast. Wrong fast.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
There was only 230' of gain (all of it in one climb) over the 15 mile course, but that doesn't explain my 24.9mph average on the road bike. I put in some work, 264w average for 36min, and there was one guy that was stuck with me most of the way, providing some draft benefit, I'm sure... but still. That's blistering.
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Canyon Aeroad 2021 and Zipp 808s. Supposed to be the fastest combo for riders under level 15 (unless it's a straight-up climbing route, then the ENVE 3.2s are likely better).
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It never hurts to ask!
Last weekend we bought some glass pieces for the house. Since it was a pretty big spend, I asked the shop owner for a 15% discount. He said okay without any questioning. Ended up getting one piece for free essentially. My wife was surprised. She just doesn't understand that everything is negotiable, and the worst they can say is "no."
Last weekend we bought some glass pieces for the house. Since it was a pretty big spend, I asked the shop owner for a 15% discount. He said okay without any questioning. Ended up getting one piece for free essentially. My wife was surprised. She just doesn't understand that everything is negotiable, and the worst they can say is "no."
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Bike Calculator gives 23.8 mph for a 176# (I thought I remembered you saying that's your weight?) rider putting out 264 watts in the drops, and 25.8 for the same rider on aerobars. So, MAYBE not TOO far out? But, yeah - I think Zwift overestimates, I'm just not sure by how much.
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