My recent find: '85 TREK 660
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It's looking great! I had those Speedy Modolos on a Centurian Equipe and they worked quite well after replacing the original sintered brake pads with Shimano something or other pads (don't remember the model).
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When I first got the bike with the Speedys, they didn't work well at all. They had a lot of slop in the pivits. Cleaned and lubed and readjusted the pivits took all the slop out and new pads, what ever they recomended at the bike shop (Shimano), and they worked great (for vintage brakes). New cables too. The levers were not Modolo and were aero which may have helped.
Not saying they are any better then the others you mentioned but can be made to work well.
Not saying they are any better then the others you mentioned but can be made to work well.
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I've also gone through the front and rear derailleurs, lubed the brake pivots, cleaned and lubed the chain, cleaned the crankset. Unfortunately the crank gears are kinda hammered, and the threads in the crank for the right pedal are half stripped out. So it looks like it's time for a better (upgrade?) crankset. This leaves me with a dilemma though: do I try to find another Mistral set, or do I look for something else like a Suntour or Campagnolo crankset.
Just put this chainring on it:
Jadesfire is selling it for cheap here.
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Looks great. I've got the same exact bike that I picked up a few weeks ago. Need to see what I'm going to do with it.
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Your Mistral crank should look like this:
The Krull of cranksets!
The Krull of cranksets!
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1992 Serotta Colorado TG
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Or get the Sakae copy of it on ebay for $26:
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1979 Trek 710; 1981 Trek 412; 1981 Trek 710
1984 Specialized Stumpjumper Sport; 1985 Specialized Allez SE; 1988 Specialized Sirrus; 1989 Specialized Rock Combo
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My initial goal was to get it back on the road to assess any needs, gather any thoughts about what to "upgrade" or change in the future, and to basically get some miles in. So as far as that goes, I feel like I am finished with "Phase 1" (except for getting miles in, it's been too cold or too rainy to do that).
Here are some current pics.They can be compared to the 'as purchased' pics on the first page of the thread.
The wheels, for the time being, are off my Panasonic, as getting a matched set of wheels is toward the top of the list for the 660.
Here are some current pics.They can be compared to the 'as purchased' pics on the first page of the thread.
The wheels, for the time being, are off my Panasonic, as getting a matched set of wheels is toward the top of the list for the 660.
You've got a great frame with a great bunch of components that Trek selected with the goal of making a really great bike. I used to be very hung up on that 2nd part there- and there's a part of me that says 'don't eff with a stock build,' and 'modern stuff doesn't go on old bikes.' But the beautiful thing is you can ALWAYS change it back.
I love old bikes, I love old bike components and I really love playing with that stuff. There's a realistic point where "is A better than B" really doesn't matter. But it does if you want it to. . There's a whole world of stuff that you can hang on a frame- and really a whole world of stuff that will look good on there. If you're a dork like me- it has to go together- even if it's just in your head.
If this were my bike...
Like I mentioned earlier- the Cyclone stuff is among the very best of components ever- you'd have a hard time finding "better." IMO- shifters got a lot better than the composite Ofmega stuff. IMO- the 3 very best friction shifters are the Simplex Retrofriction shifters, the Suntour Sprint ratcheting shifters and the Sachs/Huret ratcheting shifters. If you were going to be going with downtube shifters, you couldn't go wrong with any of the 3- but with the mid-80s Cyclone stuff... the Suntour Sprint shifters were the ultimate expression of friction shifting- introduced right when indexing came out... Slender and graceful, super light action, super fine ratcheting... Those would be the shifters.
They look pretty much like the pure friction Superbe shifters- but they have the entry for the ratcheting mechanism on the internal side.
The crankset is easy- just like [MENTION=131041]mountaindave[/MENTION] said- the Sakae CR. It looks like a cyclone generator!
The hard part here... the brake levers... The bike came with non-aero levers, so that helps the decision making process- I'm a sucker for dual slotted levers. I would roll with either the Superbe slotted levers or the Gran Compe slotted levers. The Superbes are generally a little easier to come by. Choosing the Superbes makes the brake choice as well. There are so few parts that look as nice as these with that beautiful finish intact.
(I'm gonna snag pix from [MENTION=311101]Saguaro[/MENTION]'s beautiful Cresta)
Of course, that's if'n it were me...
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Very nicely done! I’d be surprised if we haven’t all trimmed a cable housing too shor by accident. It’s a real drag when you’re out of that particular color (or have to re-wrap bars ). But it’s small potatoes compared to what you achieved!
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I’ve had an ‘86 560 posted on craigs. I’ve got it overpriced, because I don’t really want to let it go. This has inspired me to take it off and re-pack the B.B. and hubs. Let’s see what she can do!
Thank you for the inspiration.
Thank you for the inspiration.
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Since I've apparently missed every update since January...
The bike looks great! And wonderful choice with the 6400 stuff!
FWIW- I've used a Sharpie to fill in the big blatant white "Shimano" lettering on the big cog of the freewheel.
The bike looks great! And wonderful choice with the 6400 stuff!
FWIW- I've used a Sharpie to fill in the big blatant white "Shimano" lettering on the big cog of the freewheel.
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@hazetguy, I had a Trek 660 that I bought new back in 1985. I loved that bike; rode my first century on it.
So many innovative touches, such as the cable running through the chainstay and the seatpost binder bolt built into the lugset.
I think that I still have the original Modolo brakes and “resin” body rear derailleur, plus assorted other original parts.
You have done a great job returning that bike to life. Congrats and thank you for sharing those pics.
So many innovative touches, such as the cable running through the chainstay and the seatpost binder bolt built into the lugset.
I think that I still have the original Modolo brakes and “resin” body rear derailleur, plus assorted other original parts.
You have done a great job returning that bike to life. Congrats and thank you for sharing those pics.
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Looking Good!
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Skin walls will make the bike look perfectly beautiful!!
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Wheelset is the tops and like adding a turbocharger. The ADX4 rims are strong, easy to lace up, no special washers needed and better than the earlier gens, (of which the market seem to go nutz for and beyond my guess why).
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I wonder if you might like the color more if you swapped the bar tape to black. Your previous look had the bar tape as the coordinating bit of color, and now the tires do that. I love the look of black wheels with gumwalls on these old Treks, which is why I am bothering to advocate one way or another. Either way, beautiful bike!
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I really dig those rings!
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Great bike! I had the identical bike, '85 and red/yellow. It rode great but never liked the Modolo and Mistral components. Methinks TREK was desperately trying to keep an affordable "all European" kitted bike in the stable. Like yours, it ended up with a Suntour RD, convincing me that the Japanese stuff had finally passed the Campy NR kit of the time. Bought mine new, and it was stolen from my garage after three years. I miss it, even though I now have a 760 which I adore. Ride it proudly and know that you are riding something better than nearly all your friends' fancy new bikes.
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I really like the old tape. The new would be too glossy for my taste, but I wonder if you could lightly buff it with a Scotchbrite pad to dull it slightly. Wrapping over the tape you have on there would make it pretty thick...some folks just do a bit of under-wrap at crucial points rather than the whole bar.