New Wheels won't stay true
08-13-15, 01:44 PM
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where the rear didn't have enough tension to stay true under my 150 pounds and the front folded on a small bump for the same reason (wheels taco when a bump unloads the spokes, the rim no longer has lateral support so it moves off center, and the rim springs back while still off center).
I started building my own wheels after that, and begin joking about avoiding wheel builders on their first and last week with companies.
If you get Robert Shackelford aka MrRabbit, Peter White, pcad, or some other reputable one person operation (listed in no particular order) you're guaranteed to get the person who earned the reputation.
08-13-15, 07:44 PM
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Luckily, that is the next option, to rebuild from the rim up. if rebuilding them doesn't work I will take them to a 2nd shop. might replace, but at this point definitely going to have the 1st shop do the full rebuild as it won't cost me anything but time, and i have a crosstrail hybrid I can ride in the mean time. I know we have talked about spoke tension, and they put the meter on each spoke, both drive side and Non drive side, but not sure if they tensioned them accordingly, or just made sure they were "within limits" I wasn't watching as closely as I should have been. I am still learning about advanced(to me) bike maintenance like this.
Wheel building is not something I would recommend to somebody who is "still learning about advnced (to him) bike maintenance." Those of us who do build wheels have climbed what was originally a steep learning curve to do it efficiently.
Wheel building is a wonderful skill to acquire. The best way is taking lessons from somebody who is already proficient. There's too much tactile feedback to the process than can be explained in a book or video.
08-13-15, 08:05 PM
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At your weight and strength you need 36 double butted spokes on a heavier rim en the Open Pro. I have had good luck with Open Sports. They are a little heavier so they are a little stronger. I built one for a friend who was as heavy as 250.
08-13-15, 08:29 PM
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Drew nailed it. A sloppy build is your problem, not the component choices.
At 235, there is no reason a 32 spoke wheel is not capable of supporting your weight. I weigh around 220 and ride singletrack on my 32h road wheels without issue so the problem is not spoke count. I also have a lot of time on Open Pros and while I now prefer the Velocity A23 for its width and tubeless capability, the Open Pro held up great for me when I used that rim.
At 235, there is no reason a 32 spoke wheel is not capable of supporting your weight. I weigh around 220 and ride singletrack on my 32h road wheels without issue so the problem is not spoke count. I also have a lot of time on Open Pros and while I now prefer the Velocity A23 for its width and tubeless capability, the Open Pro held up great for me when I used that rim.
08-14-15, 04:59 AM
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Th internet parrot/s sing...........While a 36 would give an added measure of durability BUILT right... no REASON a well built 32 isn't enough.. by miles.
Not bothering to wade thru the blizzard of parrot platter, I ask what flavor of spoke was used? Smells like the wind-up brand and a noob who doesn't not understand spoke wind-up.
08-14-15, 11:54 AM
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08-14-15, 12:46 PM
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well only so that when I do go to return them, I have tried everything. if this doesn't work I will do 1 of 2 things. get a refund or take them somewhere else and Pay to have someone re build them. I just need to find a good builder near me.
08-14-15, 12:47 PM
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I would reverse the order of these options.
Wheel building is not something I would recommend to somebody who is "still learning about advnced (to him) bike maintenance." Those of us who do build wheels have climbed what was originally a steep learning curve to do it efficiently.
Wheel building is a wonderful skill to acquire. The best way is taking lessons from somebody who is already proficient. There's too much tactile feedback to the process than can be explained in a book or video.
Wheel building is not something I would recommend to somebody who is "still learning about advnced (to him) bike maintenance." Those of us who do build wheels have climbed what was originally a steep learning curve to do it efficiently.
Wheel building is a wonderful skill to acquire. The best way is taking lessons from somebody who is already proficient. There's too much tactile feedback to the process than can be explained in a book or video.
