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Old 02-11-14, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Great video B U T get the **** away from that part of the field, looking at the data it was well within your reach/fitness and there was lots of room to move around. That's a great place to get caught up in something. Don't stay there...
that wasn't me that crashed but just curious, whats wrong with the spot he was in? Seems like he was just mid-pack on the inside?
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that wasn't me that crashed but just curious, whats wrong with the spot he was in? Seems like he was just mid-pack on the inside?
Sorry, not him, you.
Take a look at the size of the field, bad things are bound to happen. You should focus your efforts on the front third of the field. I you look at your data you were either all on, or all off. Very inefficient use of power. Work on your pack positioning and you wil be able to race more efficiently and have a bigger kck come the end. It will also limit your risk of getting caught up in a wreck.
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Originally Posted by StopDiegoStop
Roger Millikan Crit
Cat 5 - 37/~60
First race

Had a blast doing my first crit. Was worried about getting dropped and crashing but good thing that didn't happen.
Positioning in the last final laps is crucial. Was near the front in the final laps but lost my position.
Still felt strong at the end of the race but didn't push it. Oh well, lesson learned.
Excited to do my next race and hopefully do better.

Learned a lot from the stickies and posts here so just want to thank you guys.

Btw, the full vid is in here in case you want to take a look at it:

Congrats on your first! Even though there were a few crashes that day I felt the course was pretty solid and the corners/road pretty wide, good course imho will do again. I hear ya on the positioning thing, seems like I get up there and suddenly find myself back in the pack again.. more practice!
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Sorry, not him, you.
Take a look at the size of the field, bad things are bound to happen. You should focus your efforts on the front third of the field. I you look at your data you were either all on, or all off. Very inefficient use of power. Work on your pack positioning and you wil be able to race more efficiently and have a bigger kck come the end. It will also limit your risk of getting caught up in a wreck.
Wait how do you know I was on/off the whole race. I'm so confused rkwaki
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Wait how do you know I was on/off the whole race. I'm so confused rkwaki
Sorry i thought that was your video, regardless whoever filmed it needs to listen to me
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Sorry i thought that was your video, regardless whoever filmed it needs to listen to me
Nah man that wasn't me. But in my race it was 20mins of Z1, 10 mins of Z7, and 10 mins of Z2/Z3/Z4 lol. It took me about 5 mins to get out of the yoyo part of the pack.
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Originally Posted by StopDiegoStop
Roger Millikan Crit
Cat 5 - 37/~60
First race

Had a blast doing my first crit. Was worried about getting dropped and crashing but good thing that didn't happen.
Positioning in the last final laps is crucial. Was near the front in the final laps but lost my position.
Still felt strong at the end of the race but didn't push it. Oh well, lesson learned.
Excited to do my next race and hopefully do better.

Learned a lot from the stickies and posts here so just want to thank you guys.

Btw, the full vid is in here in case you want to take a look at it:

Congratulations on completing your first crit. Work on your drafting, efficiency, and cornering, and you'll have a lot more fun. Keep it up.
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Great video B U T get the **** away from that part of the field, looking at the data it was well within your reach/fitness and there was lots of room to move around. That's a great place to get caught up in something. Don't stay there...
looking at the data?

more info than the cockpit of an f-22
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
looking at the data?

more info than the cockpit of an f-22
As someone who just wrapped up coding much of the cockpit for the F-35... not so much
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Originally Posted by waterrockets
As someone who just wrapped up coding much of the cockpit for the F-35... not so much

maybe hyperbole, but when was the last time you were watching a crit video and thought "I wonder what the latitude to the decimeter is at just this second?"

gimme speed, power, maybe hr. trim the fat!
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
maybe hyperbole, but when was the last time you were watching a crit video and thought "I wonder what the latitude to the decimeter is at just this second?"

gimme speed, power, maybe hr. trim the fat!
this.

When I first saw the video my mind was blown at half the crap the guy had. Lateral g's? say w0t.
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Originally Posted by Ygduf
gimme speed, power, maybe hr. trim the fat!
Maybe current track on a map and current position too
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And speed/power should be shown as a digital meter. The analogue ones are too hard to read while watching the race.
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Originally Posted by aaronmcd
And speed/power should be shown as a digital meter. The analogue ones are too hard to read while watching the race.
I prefer analog. Once I know the range, I can "see" it without focusing on it. If it's a number, I have to focus on it and read it. Just like a car.
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Finally getting to post here!

Raced in Race for Humanity down in Dade City, FL this past weekend - 68 mile hilly RR on Saturday, 75 min Crit Sunday.

Saturday RR - Was super cold and being my usual self was underdressed for the conditions . My plan going into the race was to sit in until around 3/4 of the way through and then start following moves from the teams with more disposable horsepower than my team. I was nearly hypothermic for most of the race but finally at the beginning of the 4th 17 mile lap, I saw an opportunity to make an attack. I hit it with one of my teammates on my wheel along with a rider from Rosetti and an unattached rider (rode for Champsys last year). We quickly got a sizable gap (up to a minute at most) however my teammate and I were the only ones working. Each of the hills, I would drop the other three and have to wait up for them at the top (I wasn't feeling like I had the power to ride the flats by myself). With about 6 km to the finish, we still had 25-30 seconds on the field (and they were not in sight due to hills and vehicles in between us), my teammate and I dropped the other two and gave it what we had. Unfortunately when we hit the final stair step hills with 2 km to go we lost the gap we had and the field caught us. We'd been chased down solely by SeaSucker/Guttenplan's strong man Steven Perezluha. Pretty frustrating had it not been for him in the race we likely would have held it.

Sunday Crit - Again my plan was to sit in the top 10 guys and have my teammates cover the attacks until 50-60 minutes into the race when I would start to light it up. Plan worked for the first 30 minutes until the main workhorse on my team flatted. My other teammates were less confident with the technical nature of the course which left me on the front by myself. I started to cover dangerous riders and ended up away in a promising break. Unfortunately we didn't have team representation and thus were brought back after 8-10 minutes. A couple more breaks went up the road all that were brought back. With 7 laps to go a very dangerous 3 man move went up the road. I found myself in a 4 man chase group which caught the 3 man move with 3 laps to go. Forward progress continued until 1 lap to go. The field at this point was only about 5 seconds behind us. I attacked in attempt to take a final lap flyer. This was promptly shut down and I had to give everything to get back onto the back of the 6 man (I'll call it more of a split at this point). We survived to the finish however unfortunately I was passed by 2 riders from the field coming into the finishing straight. 8th place in the crit along with winning a prime - not a bad first crit given not coming into the season with any speed work.

Awesome video put together (I'm the rider in the solid blue skinsuit who comes in front of the camera a decent bit of the race):

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Good job Veloboy. How long did you take you to get here? 1 & 2 Pro?
It seems like nearly everyone is riding 50mm tyres. Lots of cat and mousing.
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gnarly roads.
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What made that course technical besides the cobbles (which could have been significant)?

Nice work. I couldn't figure out who you were.
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Originally Posted by rkwaki
Nice work velo
Nice work. I couldn't figure out who you were.[/QUOTE]

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Good job Veloboy. How long did you take you to get here? 1 & 2 Pro?
It seems like nearly everyone is riding 50mm tyres. Lots of cat and mousing.
Thanks! Took a while lol although I didn't really train for the first 3 years that I rode (been riding for 8.5 years I guess...?). Once I did start really riding a lot more than just around the neighborhood it was a couple months to get out of cat 5, maybe 6 months in cat 4, full season as cat 3, then upgraded to 1/2's start of the 2011 season.

1/2's definitely a bit cat and mousy right now in Florida (in contrast to shear firepower in the past). Makes it fun but also frustrating as it can be hard to get away unless you have the exact combination of riders you need lol

[QUOTE=shovelhd;16491276]What made that course technical besides the cobbles (which could have been significant)?

Nice work. I couldn't figure out who you were.

In corner two there were potholes both on the outside leading into the corner as well as in the apex and a bit of sand in the "S" portion (it really wasn't bad IMO, it was just a short course so if you were bad at cornering there wasn't much place to move up except the straight away - which is the case for a lot of riders here in FL). I was the rider in the bright blue kit on the Giant TCR Advanced with Zipps and yellow tape
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Sounds like some good racing, veloboy!
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Originally Posted by veloboy971
Finally getting to post here!


Raced in Race for Humanity down in Dade City, FL this past weekend - 68 mile hilly RR on Saturday, 75 min Crit Sunday.


Saturday RR - Was super cold and being my usual self was underdressed for the conditions . My plan going into the race was to sit in until around 3/4 of the way through and then start following moves from the teams with more disposable horsepower than my team. I was nearly hypothermic for most of the race but finally at the beginning of the 4th 17 mile lap, I saw an opportunity to make an attack. I hit it with one of my teammates on my wheel along with a rider from Rosetti and an unattached rider (rode for Champsys last year). We quickly got a sizable gap (up to a minute at most) however my teammate and I were the only ones working. Each of the hills, I would drop the other three and have to wait up for them at the top (I wasn't feeling like I had the power to ride the flats by myself). With about 6 km to the finish, we still had 25-30 seconds on the field (and they were not in sight due to hills and vehicles in between us), my teammate and I dropped the other two and gave it what we had. Unfortunately when we hit the final stair step hills with 2 km to go we lost the gap we had and the field caught us. We'd been chased down solely by SeaSucker/Guttenplan's strong man Steven Perezluha. Pretty frustrating had it not been for him in the race we likely would have held it.


Sunday Crit - Again my plan was to sit in the top 10 guys and have my teammates cover the attacks until 50-60 minutes into the race when I would start to light it up. Plan worked for the first 30 minutes until the main workhorse on my team flatted. My other teammates were less confident with the technical nature of the course which left me on the front by myself. I started to cover dangerous riders and ended up away in a promising break. Unfortunately we didn't have team representation and thus were brought back after 8-10 minutes. A couple more breaks went up the road all that were brought back. With 7 laps to go a very dangerous 3 man move went up the road. I found myself in a 4 man chase group which caught the 3 man move with 3 laps to go. Forward progress continued until 1 lap to go. The field at this point was only about 5 seconds behind us. I attacked in attempt to take a final lap flyer. This was promptly shut down and I had to give everything to get back onto the back of the 6 man (I'll call it more of a split at this point). We survived to the finish however unfortunately I was passed by 2 riders from the field coming into the finishing straight. 8th place in the crit along with winning a prime - not a bad first crit given not coming into the season with any speed work.


Awesome video put together (I'm the rider in the solid blue skinsuit who comes in front of the camera a decent bit of the race):



Great work. I've seen Steven Perezluha race a couple times, and that guy is a beast. You would need an epic ride to stay away from him if he was determined to chase you down.


I considered driving down for that race, but had to work through the weekend. Are you doing the Swamp Classic?
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Originally Posted by veloboy971
Nice work. I couldn't figure out who you were.




Thanks! Took a while lol although I didn't really train for the first 3 years that I rode (been riding for 8.5 years I guess...?). Once I did start really riding a lot more than just around the neighborhood it was a couple months to get out of cat 5, maybe 6 months in cat 4, full season as cat 3, then upgraded to 1/2's start of the 2011 season.

1/2's definitely a bit cat and mousy right now in Florida (in contrast to shear firepower in the past). Makes it fun but also frustrating as it can be hard to get away unless you have the exact combination of riders you need lol

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What made that course technical besides the cobbles (which could have been significant)?

Nice work. I couldn't figure out who you were.

In corner two there were potholes both on the outside leading into the corner as well as in the apex and a bit of sand in the "S" portion (it really wasn't bad IMO, it was just a short course so if you were bad at cornering there wasn't much place to move up except the straight away - which is the case for a lot of riders here in FL). I was the rider in the bright blue kit on the Giant TCR Advanced with Zipps and yellow tape
Gut and I were going back and forth via email last week (picked up some new 2014 Osymetrics from him) - you've got some big ole crit guys down your way (physically and palmare speaking).

I remember doing a course much like that but it had cobbles on every corner. About 1/3 the way through it started to rain, it was horrific. Ended up in a break to try and stay out of the gutter. Didn't win that day, a certain https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Barry_(cyclist) took the win that day.
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Cedar Hills Race Fest...

Sat - 3/4 - 60 starters. About 1/2 way into race had a mech. Teammate took 6th

Sunday - RR - 3/4 field - 44 starters - held tight near front, team covered breaks - had a guy in a break, never a real gap. With less than 1 mile to go flyer went off the front... Sat tight. with 1200-1000 to go a strong guy took off... I bought it... grabbed his wheel. He popped us off the field. He shut the flyer after the last turn. ~ 300-400 ish but didn't have the legs to finish - I heard the train coming... jumped on about 8th wheel. Passed 3 guys, but got nicked at the line for 6th place. Honestly felt like I could have won the race... just need to race smarter... allot smarter haha...coach covered that...
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