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Old 09-11-24, 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01
In most of those uses, I think the author was just trying to use some words and phrases to get ones attention. You can't just say its a great bike all the time and expect people to be automatically motivated to read the rest of the article.

So the meaning of snappy to the author was probably buried down in the review with other descriptive terms. Not any necessarily terms unique only to cycling. Nor terms that specifically have one meaning. And despite the use of the term in those articles, I wasn't motivated to keep reading.

But thanks for finding those for us terrymorse !
Similarly, on bass guitar forums, fans of older, heavier amplifiers argue that they produce "heft," "slam," "grunt," etc., compared to the newer class D amps: all terms that are equally vivid and equally unquantifiable.
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Similarly, on bass guitar forums, fans of older, heavier amplifiers argue that they produce "heft," "slam," "grunt," etc., compared to the newer class D amps: all terms that are equally vivid and equally unquantifiable.
The best things in life are unquantifiable.
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Originally Posted by john m flores
The best things in life are unquantifiable.
The best things in life are free,
But you can give them to the birds and bees!
I want money.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
In most of those uses, I think the author was just trying to use some words and phrases to get ones attention. You can't just say its a great bike all the time and expect people to be automatically motivated to read the rest of the article.

So the meaning of snappy to the author was probably buried down in the review with other descriptive terms. Not any necessarily terms unique only to cycling. Nor terms that specifically have one meaning. And despite the use of the term in those articles, I wasn't motivated to keep reading.

But thanks for finding those for us terrymorse !
it puts a bike in a category, for sure. if someone describes a bike as snappy but smooth, i can certainly imagine how it would feel to ride. or solid, stable and smooth. or bouncy and lively. fast, twitchy, precise, springy, etc etc. despite the fact that most of these words are literally kind of silly, of course bikes are solid (being made of solids, not liquids) but they're also hollow, for the most part. imprecise terms used slightly out of context from their literal meaning but it all seems pretty descriptive to me.
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Originally Posted by john m flores
The best things in life are unquantifiable.
Perfect.Like "snap," apparently meaningful, but unfruitfully vague. And yet arguably true.

The curse of modern life: all that is not demonstrably (I.e., quantifiably) valuable is held to be valueless. That the arts are disappearing from school curricula is only one result among many.
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If one says a car has ‘snap’ it means it is performance oriented. It is quick to respond, accelerates quickly and handles well. Same for a bike. Not rocket surgery.
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My first bike with snap was a Trek 560. Press on pedals, eyes get big. "Oh!"

Much later I acquired a vintage Motobecane Grand Jubile. It didn't have snap, but it had something else that felt exquisite, noticeable within the first ten feet of riding. The Trek didn't have it, nor has any bike I've owned since. I'll just say it felt lovely. I should get another one.

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''Make it snappy allright?''

Fasssst. Quick to respond.
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It means it’s on public assistance.
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Originally Posted by Garthr
As John M Flores alluded to, it's a descriptive term used to denote the sensation of immediacy in energy retrun of the energy expended. Likewise, some bikes when ridden may feel "dead" in that it feels like your energy expended isn't being returned very well. I think it has much to do whether or not one likes how a bike feels/rides, there's just some bikes that you feel terrific riding, others not so much. So in a sense the term can also be used to describe the sensation the rider feels in-putting their energy into the bike. Is it the bike or the rider ? Both as it takes both for "the ride", neither the bike nor the rider can ride by themselves.
I think this explanation sounds the best because "snap" describes responsiveness. However, rather than energy, I think of this in terms of a rider's input forces and the immediacy with which a bike reacts to the rider's input forces.
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*Nimble = carbon road bike (has snap)
*Ponderous = fully loaded steel touring bike (doesn't have snap)

*Sorta extreme description in both cases but it gets the idea across because in the end.............................................it all depends on the motor.
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Originally Posted by WNCGoater
*Ponderous = fully loaded steel touring bike (doesn't have snap)
Some of us prefer the terms "predictable", "stable", and "comfortable", although that may start getting into "walllowing". To each their own, but quite correct that this type of bicycle behavior is anything but "snappy".
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Originally Posted by RCMoeur
Some of us prefer the terms "predictable", "stable", and "comfortable", although that may start getting into "walllowing". To each their own, but quite correct that this type of bicycle behavior is anything but "snappy".
I’m on tour right now. Snap is the sound your leg would make if I were to run into it.
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If right before you frame breaks you hear a snap...that could be considered a snappy bike.
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So much onomatopoeia...
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Since all the answers so far show that "snap" is an unfamiliar descriptor for a bike, even for those who have been around bikes for decades, you'll have to provide a link to your source. (Seems fair to guess that you've come across it only once.)
Oh Snap! ! !

that's what it means...
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Originally Posted by RCMoeur
Some of us prefer the terms "predictable", "stable", and "comfortable", although that may start getting into "walllowing". To each their own, but quite correct that this type of bicycle behavior is anything but "snappy".
Oh absolutely. My steel touring bike is the most comfortable bike I own. It currently has all racks removed and Continental road tires so...dare I say, it's comparable to a road bike. If I want to lay down some miles I'd choose it just because it's easier on my body. Though not ponderous while in its current naked state, with the steel frame weight vs. carbon I still wouldn't categorize it as snappy or nimble!
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after "planing", "snap" is all you have
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that Humpty Dumpty was no George Carlin, eh?
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I foolishly attempted to assist a turtle stopped in the middle of the road across the road once. I tired giving it a scoot with my foot, out came the head in flash and SNAP ! Missed me but scared the heck out of me. So there's a kind of "snap" you don't want to experience. Just let the little fella be.
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