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Old 06-28-24, 05:53 AM
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I purchased this seat approximately 3 weeks ago and had the seat installed and adjusted by a bicycle shop and this seat was so uncomfortable, my bum hurts even now . Pros: the noseless feature is the best. Cons:The rest of the seat was and is so uncomfortable. Typically when I ride my bike with the original seat I don’t get uncomfortable till I’ve ridden approximately 10-15 miles, then approximately the rest of the ride with the V seat I found myself constantly shifting and readjusting. I may return it as for now I had my original seat put back on and had the bicycle shop put the Vseat on my 10 year old autistic grandson’s bike , however on the bike ride I noticed my grandson shifting his position but he said that his shalauhagus felt better on the Vseat but clearly he was uncomfortable. Would not recommend at all
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I purchased this seat approximately 3 weeks ago and had the seat installed and adjusted by a bicycle shop and this seat was so uncomfortable, my bum hurts even now . Pros: the noseless feature is the best. Cons:The rest of the seat was and is so uncomfortable. Typically when I ride my bike with the original seat I don’t get uncomfortable till I’ve ridden approximately 10-15 miles, then approximately the rest of the ride with the V seat I found myself constantly shifting and readjusting. I may return it as for now I had my original seat put back on and had the bicycle shop put the Vseat on my 10 year old autistic grandson’s bike , however on the bike ride I noticed my grandson shifting his position but he said that his shalauhagus felt better on the Vseat but clearly he was uncomfortable. Would not recommend at all
Noseless saddles have a generally less-than-positive reputation on BF
The consensus is seems to hover somewhere between "get a professional bike fitting" and "get a brooks saddle" and occasionally both.

If you really REALLY want to keep the saddle, try adjusting and angle, forward/rear, and overall height.
A few degrees or mm on either of these can change the entire fit.
A different saddle is also highly suggested.

Saddle width depends on your hip (sit) bone width and not necessarily your butt width (bone vs flesh)

Good luck
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
Saddle width depends on your hip (sit) bone width and not necessarily your butt width (bone vs flesh)
Quoted for truth.

Go online and check out ways to measure how wide a saddle you need. (isceal tuberosities?)
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too-wide seats cause pain.
thicker padding causes chaffing.
bicycles are not couches.
my preferred seat is narrow nosed, and 145mm wide, FLEXIBLE wings at the back
the padding is almost irrelevant.

and no matter what, the first long ride always hurts some.

oh, IMO... the open-center, "valley" seats are torture devices looking for a victim.
and "gel" seats make me think i'm riding with a full diaper.
a Correct seat HEIGHT is more important than padding... most occasional riders have their seats set too darn low.
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Originally Posted by maddog34
a Correct seat HEIGHT is more important than padding... most occasional riders have their seats set too darn low.
Also, a half a degree of tilt can make a huge difference.
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Old 06-29-24, 04:18 PM
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A good portion of what maddog34 said is true. Adjusting a saddle setback, height and tilt is the most important thing and the thing that is usually completely overlooked when talking saddle comfort. I will have to disagree on cutout saddles but too each their own. Saddles are a very personal thing and a saddle that works for them probably won't work for me.

Noseless saddles are complete and utter bunk-o nonsense garbage peddled by people who don't understand bicycle riding at all. The nose of a saddle is quite useful in controlling the bike. In fact there have been times when I have actually intentionally not turned my bars and just steered with the nose and it was excellent. However I frequently do it without really thinking.

A good saddle can have padding or not it is the quality and firmness of the padding that makes the difference. Soft is bad on a saddle because you have to compress that softness before it supports you and when you are compressing something in between that will cause pressure points and those cause pain and pain is bad. You want something that is firmer but if you do go with a thinner saddle like say my favorite the Brooks Cambium line of saddles they have ZERO padding but a good bit of flex in them so that way you can still be quite comfortable while still being supported. Less to no padding doesn't ever mean uncomfortable (necessarily) it will usually mean some more flex or really good support.

The problem with saddles is they can tell you nothing unless you ride them for a decent bit of time and get used to them after being properly adjust for you. Obviously get one for your sit bone width and riding position but beyond that it is all down to riding for a bit. Having had to ride a lot of different bikes with different saddles over the years there have been plenty of saddles that I might not have cared for in my short trip but could have been a very comfortable option had I had time on it.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
Noseless saddles are complete and utter bunk-o nonsense garbage peddled by people who don't understand bicycle riding at all. The nose of a saddle is quite useful in controlling the bike.
I'm currently experimenting with a noseless saddle out of curiosity and the idea that there might be something more comfortable than a traditional saddle. The jury is still out, but there are real advantages as well as some challenges that must be overcome. I have not noticed any problems with controlling the bike, mostly because the way I ride doesn't require me to rely on the saddle nose. If I were navigating a quickly and constantly changing trajectory, I might want the extra control (but then in the extreme I might not even be sitting on the saddle).

I hear that recumbents are very comfortable, and riders get by without a saddle nose. So there are alternatives to saddles with noses, while still maintaining that what is ridden is a bicycle.
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Originally Posted by Paul_P
I'm currently experimenting with a noseless saddle out of curiosity and the idea that there might be something more comfortable than a traditional saddle. The jury is still out, but there are real advantages as well as some challenges that must be overcome. I have not noticed any problems with controlling the bike, mostly because the way I ride doesn't require me to rely on the saddle nose. If I were navigating a quickly and constantly changing trajectory, I might want the extra control (but then in the extreme I might not even be sitting on the saddle).

I hear that recumbents are very comfortable, and riders get by without a saddle nose. So there are alternatives to saddles with noses, while still maintaining that what is ridden is a bicycle.
I hate sliding forward and putting extra pressure on my wrists but if that is something you desire and want and don't need easy control of your bike then a noseless saddle exists. A properly adjusted saddle that is the correct width and shape for your sit bones and riding style is going to be the most comfortable. Gimmicks are fun for short term and certainly bring up conversation but if there was a true benefit for the noseless saddle you would see them nearly everywhere. It is less material so it would be potentially cheaper to produce and if they really worked well they would be everywhere and more large companies would make them.

A recumbent is an entirely different machine with no saddle anyway. You cannot really compare it to a bicycle in this particular regard. However yes they can be quite comfortable and fun to ride once and while.
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