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Old 06-19-24, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Duragrouch
The LBS mentioned is not really local to me, it's in/near White Center in SW Seattle, I've only been there once, but they are notable for IGH service and have a huge webpage devoted to that, as well as an anti-carbon page with photos of failed carbon parts. Aaron's Bike Repair/Rat City Bikes.
I've been to that shop many times. It's sort of a mixed bag. At first he was a grumpy grouch & I didn't want to go back. But after a few visits he discovered I was also a shop manager of a local Co-Op and that I actually knew a thing or two about bikes, he warmed up. He really knows his stuff and he does have that unobtainium repair part in stock. Whatever item "X" is, it's worth it to get it on the spot right then & there. Yes, at full MSRP. He's also very proud of his museum pieces. Retailing vintage bikes at 3-4x top dollar. I dunno about that. But, it works for him. His shop ain't no charity. I do like his "on the spot, while you wait" service model. It's something you don't get these days. It's something I endeavored to do at my own shop. It's a lot more demanding than it seems. He's earned my respect. It ain't easy.

I do think the Anti-Carbon rant is a serious bit of textbook confirmation bias. He's free to believe any darn thing he wants. He posts here from time to time. I'm not going to divulge his screen name.

The bike shop most notable local to me is Recycled Cycles in the U-District, primarily because of their fantastic selection of used parts. While I wouldn't swear to it, I don't recall them stocking ANY carbon frame bikes, though may be available on order. No Treks. Mostly aluminum, though I noted some lovely road touring bikes they had in stock a year ago, Masi, which were chrome moly steel and had *amazing* small precision welds like I have seen on quality titanium bikes, my guess, and only a guess, may be a laser-pulse weld with filler material, rather than plasma arc with same; It just looked too small and precise for normal processes, but I could be wrong. Btw, I saw a development plan for that area in the last year I think, I think the area of the bike shop will become park, that's nice, but I hope the shop relocates local. It's bad enough that Hardwick's Hardware sold out and split for Idaho.
I think the used carbon bike market is ready to break into the Co-Op, Recycled, second-hand type stores any day now. Any non-profit or thrift thrives on 25 to 30yo bikes and older. When did carbon frames first hit the market? When did they become common? When did they become cost competitive with metal? All of these things conspire to make a vanishingly small pool of bikes available to non-profits, let alone consignment shops and the like.

I know both Recycled Cycles and BikeWorks. I like to think of them as: Recycled Cycles is where you go to buy used bike parts; Bike Works is where you go to hunt for used bike parts.

FWIW: Bike Works posts here, too. Most usually in the C&V but sometimes elsewhere. Good guys (all of them) through & through.

I don't know about the area Master Plan. There is already a park just up the hill about a block or so behind their operation. I find it hard to believe that such prime commercial real estate would be converted to park. Do you have a link?
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Old 06-22-24, 04:05 PM
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If that's the case, it seems odd that you would spend your time on BF...for 15 years!
I'm here for the entertainment, and research on the trends, but mostly for the entertainment...
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Originally Posted by Eric F
I have significantly more chain drop/suck issues on my Campy-equipped road bike than I have ever had with a Shimano-equipped road bike. I installed a K-Edge chain keeper, which seems to have helped the problem, but not totally eliminated it. I need to check the chainring for twisted/bent teeth.
Campy isn't accurate nor as smooth compared to Shimano when it comes to shifting. Even Dura Ace 7410 outperformed 8 speed record titanium back in the days. Maybe the cassette has a manufacturing flaw.

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Old 06-26-24, 01:13 PM
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I suppose that the Trek in question wasn't made in the US, probably a lack of quality control ??
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Old 06-26-24, 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by TiHabanero
FWIW, the old OCLV frames are nothing like the new stuff Trek markets. Those old ones had some real meat on their bones and were very stout. Chain suck meant nothing to those things!
Probably due to the fact that those were US hand made had OCLV 110-120HC and were made to last decades and decades, past 2007/2008 Trek decided to move production overseas and quality is not what it used to be same with quality control.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
In addition to the old OCLV 9900, I also have the modern version - Procaliber 9.9SL. Yes, you can definitely tell that the old OCLV is built like a tank, but the Procal is handling my stupidity just fine. As I 've mentioned before, I don't subscribe to the "delicate CF" paranoia.
OCLV 9900 was abusively raced and tested by the Trek Volkswagen team. I know two guys who are still racing their 9900 with upgraded componentry and the 9900 still does the job fine.
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I think I would appeal to Trek Corporate.

Say what happened exactly as you did here, being polite and throwing yourself on their mercy. (rather than jumping straight to "I'll never buy Trek again.") Specialized may have reacted the same way, after all.

You might also invoke this little tidbit from the page for EVERY bike on their site:

We'll take care of you. Period. It's our mission to provide you with world-class hospitality every time you visit us online or in-store. We're always here to help you. It's the Trek way.

What they're doing is the opposite of taking care of you, and it is not even a ridiculous claim, nor a 20 year old bike.

https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/b...colorCode=grey
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