awac

https://www.ataraxybsc.com/pages/pro...tion-vabsrider

What do you think? My wife thinks it’s a tangle accident in the waiting, lol. Seriously, next step in seat design?



Vabsrider seat

Paul_P

Well, now that's interesting.
My rear end is always dreaming of a better way, and I sure would like to try it out.

But, I notice that all riders in the video have locked elbows, making me think that this saddle does not by itself stop you from sliding forward, like with every other nose-less saddle. You have to be under power all the time to prevent sliding and it's very difficult to remove even one hand from the handlebars. The more upright the position the easier, but that's not the best for moving forward efficiently. Being in good shape with strong arms helps as well.

rando_couche

I would be amazed if this concept hadn't been tried at least once.

Aubergine 

Oh, it has. Been around since the 70s at least.

awac

True. Whenever you think something is new…..

Trakhak

Next step?

awac

Lol that didn’t take long to find an earlier idea! I love finding out about forgotten ideas.

The controlled fore & aft movement movement is the only thing missing, but to be fair to vabsrider innovation a lot of the time is all about the small change that makes a big difference. I would like to try it, but do wonder how comfortable with drops it would be?

Iride01 

I didn't see anyone riding in a hurry on that track. Everyone out for a nice and leisurely upright ride sitting almost bolt upright. So maybe best for leisurely rides in the park or around the neighborhood. And that's not a slur. Just stating where this will likely give some results.

A fitness or performance oriented cyclist probably won't like that upper thigh hitting on the front edge after 30 to 40 minutes and certainly not for more than a hour. IMO.

unterhausen

The innovation is supposedly that it pivots on a virtual axis. So maybe it is the first to feature that kind of rotation. Most of them use a fixed pivot. The basic idea is not new though, I would be amazed if there wasn't something nearly the same back in 1897. The one from the early '80s was the most incredibly uncomfortable seat I have ever ridden. I put one on for a customer, then a few years later I was forced to sit through a training film and it turns out the inventor of the seat made the film. I laughed and laughed. Bike seat starts at 16:43 ish


There is one guy that is shown riding on streets and not shown riding the wrong way on that track that is pushing a little. He bottoms out the saddle travel every time. It looks like it would quickly be a problem for him. This kind of saddle only works for someone that has their saddle too low and is just slowly riding around. But those cheap tractor-style seats would also work for that.

Paul_P

And he too has locked elbows and is clearly having trouble keeping the bike stable while remaining seated. I know the feeling from my experiments with the similar Spiderflex. You really have to be in a power position with arms slightly bent but in a strong posture and the more power you're transferring to the pedals the easier it is to remain comfortably seated. The problem is when you want to scratch an itch and have to let go of one hand. Still, with all the difficulty, the lack of a horn is bliss.

And man, that guy in the trike/car, if he ever put his foot down he'd suffer instant ankle destruction if he wasn't completely dragged under. That was hard to watch.