The "Before And After" Thread
09-16-24, 09:18 AM
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I posted this bike in its own progress thread, but this one seems to be the central repository for before and after pictures, so I'll add it here as well. Last year while on vacation, I found this bike hanging in and antique mall in Alabama. The fancy lug work and Campy dropouts pointed to it being something decent, but I knew nothing about the name. Googling FW Evans didn't turn up much, but it was only $40, so I took a chance on it. Once I got the bike home and did more research, I learned that I found a real diamond in the rough. FW Evans had a bike shop in London in the 1920s. Although he died during WWII, the shop continued to operate, first by his wife, then transferring to his store manager. They built bike frames in the basement of the shop and had a good reputation for touring bikes. The business is still in operation today as Evans Cycles. My bike appears to have been made in the early 1970s at the original shop in London. Evans bikes were only sold from that shop, first on Kennington Road, and later on Waterloo Cut. They were never exported, so it is a mystery how my bike ended up in Alabama. One theory is that someone came to England and bought the bike to tour the country and brought it home with them afterwards. There was a rack on the bike, so that is plausible. The shop was located near a train station, so it is not hard to imagine someone flying into Heathrow and taking the train into the city to pick up their new bike. Then they could catch a train out to the countryside to start their tour.
When I got the bike home and disassembled, I scrubbed the frame with Barkeeper's Friend and a 3M pad to remove the pealing paint and surface rust. Then I built it up with parts that I have on hand to see whether I had a winner or a dud. The verdict was I definitely had a winner. The shallow seat and headtube angles give it a stable, comfortable ride, but still sporty. I ended up riding all last summer in its "rat rod" condition. This spring, I took it back apart and started work on the paint. With other obligations and weather conditions, I was only working on it a little at a time, with long breaks in between, so the paint had plenty of time to harden in my hot pole barn. I used Rustoleum paint, with Color Shot Pixie Dust for a bit of sparkle, followed by Rustoleum clear. I used a gold paint pen to outline the lugs. The final build was completed just last week. I used a period correct SR crankset, Shimano Crane rear and 600 front deraileurs, Sun Tour Power shift levers, a Nitto stem, and SR Randonneur bars. The Campy seat post and Wienmann brakes are original to the bike. And of course it has a Brooks B17. I am really pleased with how it turned out.
The bike hanging in the antique shop. I was holding my phone up to try to get a picture of the name on the decal.
This was a little too much "patina" for me. Thankfully, stem and seatpost came out.
Decals from H Lloyd Cycles
All done! I wanted to emulate the 1960s Lotus team colors and highlight the beautiful lugs.
When I got the bike home and disassembled, I scrubbed the frame with Barkeeper's Friend and a 3M pad to remove the pealing paint and surface rust. Then I built it up with parts that I have on hand to see whether I had a winner or a dud. The verdict was I definitely had a winner. The shallow seat and headtube angles give it a stable, comfortable ride, but still sporty. I ended up riding all last summer in its "rat rod" condition. This spring, I took it back apart and started work on the paint. With other obligations and weather conditions, I was only working on it a little at a time, with long breaks in between, so the paint had plenty of time to harden in my hot pole barn. I used Rustoleum paint, with Color Shot Pixie Dust for a bit of sparkle, followed by Rustoleum clear. I used a gold paint pen to outline the lugs. The final build was completed just last week. I used a period correct SR crankset, Shimano Crane rear and 600 front deraileurs, Sun Tour Power shift levers, a Nitto stem, and SR Randonneur bars. The Campy seat post and Wienmann brakes are original to the bike. And of course it has a Brooks B17. I am really pleased with how it turned out.
The bike hanging in the antique shop. I was holding my phone up to try to get a picture of the name on the decal.
This was a little too much "patina" for me. Thankfully, stem and seatpost came out.
Decals from H Lloyd Cycles
All done! I wanted to emulate the 1960s Lotus team colors and highlight the beautiful lugs.
09-16-24, 01:08 PM
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I posted this bike in "saved from the dump" a few months ago. It was a one owner bike, and he had pretty much used it up.
1986 Bianchi Trofeo in Electric Rose with patina, rust, failing paint and swapped worn out components.
I decided I didn't really want to strip and paint, even though it needs it.
Replaced most of the parts, switching to Superbe for the shifting. A bunch of touchups and rust treatment later, it's a nice ride.
1986 Bianchi Trofeo in Electric Rose with patina, rust, failing paint and swapped worn out components.
I decided I didn't really want to strip and paint, even though it needs it.
Replaced most of the parts, switching to Superbe for the shifting. A bunch of touchups and rust treatment later, it's a nice ride.
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09-16-24, 01:11 PM
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I posted this bike in "saved from the dump" a few months ago. It was a one owner bike, and he had pretty much used it up.
1986 Bianchi Trofeo in Electric Rose with patina, rust, failing paint and swapped worn out components.
I decided I didn't really want to strip and paint, even though it needs it.
Replaced most of the parts, switching to Superbe for the shifting. A bunch of touchups and rust treatment later, it's a nice ride.
1986 Bianchi Trofeo in Electric Rose with patina, rust, failing paint and swapped worn out components.
I decided I didn't really want to strip and paint, even though it needs it.
Replaced most of the parts, switching to Superbe for the shifting. A bunch of touchups and rust treatment later, it's a nice ride.
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09-16-24, 03:50 PM
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09-17-24, 05:52 PM
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Scapin frame build
The shop in Turin wasn't sure who the builder was. After some research I'm pretty sure it's Scapin late 70s early 80s.
Similar to early de Rosa cutouts. Internal RD cable routing.
PO had used letter punches on stay end. Grrr.
Rolled out a dent and filled with silver solder.
This brake mounting was a little too thick for my brakes so I ground it down little.
Mini air belt sander to prep fork chrome for paint. Good quality re-chrome is just too expensive now.
Local bike builder Bill Gibson brazed new cable guides for me. Great guy!
Getting ready for stressful and exhausting 7 coats of 2K: 2 coats epoxy primer - long cure. 3 coats color. 2 coats epoxy clear. Color and clear should be applied in a limited time window for best bonding and gloss.
Hang 4 weeks before building.
Similar to early de Rosa cutouts. Internal RD cable routing.
PO had used letter punches on stay end. Grrr.
Rolled out a dent and filled with silver solder.
This brake mounting was a little too thick for my brakes so I ground it down little.
Mini air belt sander to prep fork chrome for paint. Good quality re-chrome is just too expensive now.
Local bike builder Bill Gibson brazed new cable guides for me. Great guy!
Getting ready for stressful and exhausting 7 coats of 2K: 2 coats epoxy primer - long cure. 3 coats color. 2 coats epoxy clear. Color and clear should be applied in a limited time window for best bonding and gloss.
Hang 4 weeks before building.
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09-28-24, 04:58 PM
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OK, I'm pushing the "vintage" boundary with this one I know but the other forums don't have the same appreciation for fixing up bikes as the C&V peeps. Old NASHBAR hardtail I bought a few weeks ago that turned out not to be quite the gem it appeared to be on the surface. So I spent way too much bringing up to my low standards even though it's too small for me. The only logic involved on this one is the Ritchey Logic headset......
As purchased.........
As of this afternoon.....
As purchased.........
As of this afternoon.....
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09-29-24, 12:59 AM
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09-29-24, 01:01 AM
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OK, I'm pushing the "vintage" boundary with this one I know but the other forums don't have the same appreciation for fixing up bikes as the C&V peeps. Old NASHBAR hardtail I bought a few weeks ago that turned out not to be quite the gem it appeared to be on the surface. So I spent way too much bringing up to my low standards even though it's too small for me. The only logic involved on this one is the Ritchey Logic headset......
As purchased.........
As of this afternoon.....
As purchased.........
As of this afternoon.....
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09-29-24, 04:01 AM
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09-29-24, 08:20 AM
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09-29-24, 10:37 AM
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09-29-24, 01:57 PM
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Davidson Impulse circa 1990
I bought this Davidson Impulse about 5 years ago and have had it stored all this time. Somewhere along the way I got the bug to turn it into a bit of an art project with bits of pink and magenta. Probably would have gone more traditional if I had it to do all over again. Like most of my racers, a size too small so I grew it with a long seatpost, 90 degree stem and 175mm cranks. DA7800 group and buttery-smooth White Industries hubs help this Tange Prestige speedster weigh in at 19.6 lbs as pictured. My first C&V to come in under 20!
BEFORE
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09-29-24, 02:30 PM
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Started with parts.
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09-29-24, 05:11 PM
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09-29-24, 06:25 PM
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the white accent "points" at the front of the top tube is referred to as the "darts paint scheme"
was only employed two year
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09-30-24, 02:30 AM
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I bought this Davidson Impulse about 5 years ago and have had it stored all this time. Somewhere along the way I got the bug to turn it into a bit of an art project with bits of pink and magenta. Probably would have gone more traditional if I had it to do all over again. Like most of my racers, a size too small so I grew it with a long seatpost, 90 degree stem and 175mm cranks. DA7800 group and buttery-smooth White Industries hubs help this Tange Prestige speedster weigh in at 19.6 lbs as pictured. My first C&V to come in under 20!
BEFORE
NOW
BEFORE
NOW
and the you can never go wrong with Dura Ace 7800, it is my favorite Dura Ace Group that I am getting mounted on all my road bike projects
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10-01-24, 09:17 AM
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