Totally Tubular
09-17-24, 11:46 AM
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Yep, I’ve been doing this a lot lately, using 32mm-34mm cross tubulars on vintage rims such as Fiamme, Wolber Super Champion, etc. you do have to be a little careful on really hot days and long, twisty descents (probably not a lot of those in Florida) if the glue starts to heat up. I had another incident where I rolled a tire on a rutted, technical corner with some large rocks over this past summer, but for most ordinary use the large cross tires offer a really nice smooth ride and options for mixed terrain. I do wish there were more dry gravel tubular options available. Dugast Pipistrellos are a favorite, but pricey and sidewalls sometimes break down. Victoria had a Terreno Dry tubular model that seems to be discontinued but I’d recommend if you can find it. FMB makes great tires. I haven’t tried their CX tubulars. Challenge Chicane (more knobby) and Challenge Almanzo (better for road and gravel) are also good options. Tufo Flexus Dry (34mm, different tubeless construction) are another option if you have good clearance, but don’t have as nice of a road deal and “grippy-ness” as the others.
I just rode the 5 days of Cycle Oregon's first Rally on GP4s and Vitt Corsa G+ 25c rear, Control 30c front. Great ride! (I needed to minimize shock to my head - that other LBS; loose brain syndrome. Wanted to put a 28 in back but haven't seen one to buy in a while. 30s back there on that bike are just too close.)
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09-17-24, 12:26 PM
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that is my impression also....will be interesting to see if they have a replacement or what other manufacturers will offer.... oddly enough I think the move by manufacturers to TLR only clinchers instead of offering non TLR and TLR models (i.e newest gravel king slick model) and the fun of mounting may push more people back to tubular or not
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09-17-24, 01:25 PM
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Here's the current Vittoria replacement
Corsa Control TLR
https://int.vittoria.com/products/co...tubeless-ready
Under tubulars Vittoria currently only show 3: https://int.vittoria.com/collections...uction=Tubular
On the up side BikeInn still have Corsa Control at decent prices:
https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...3363_1&start=0
Corsa Control TLR
https://int.vittoria.com/products/co...tubeless-ready
Under tubulars Vittoria currently only show 3: https://int.vittoria.com/collections...uction=Tubular
Corsa Pro
Rally
Juniores
.Rally
Juniores
On the up side BikeInn still have Corsa Control at decent prices:
https://www.tradeinn.com/bikeinn/en/...3363_1&start=0
09-17-24, 01:34 PM
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09-17-24, 01:38 PM
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I rode my tubular-equipped Gitane to work today. A couple examples of mixed use cross tubulars.
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09-17-24, 01:51 PM
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then there's the sidewall suppleness, lacking on Sprinters and Gatorskins
Hard to take a light supple tire+casing and compare it to one made for toughness. Is the best of both worlds supple with ounces of sealant? I don't know, I no longer 'pre-load' tubulars with sealant (gave me valve concerns, even using only 1oz).
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09-17-24, 01:54 PM
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Now, December and January, while the wheels were still round, riding was fun. Did some magic first tire tracks on fresh snow rides to work.
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09-17-24, 01:59 PM
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Thanks. It's been 40 years since I lived there. I lived in Santa Cruz a year and used to ride up to Half Moon Bay in the morning, stop for lunch and fly home with the tailwind. Also sailboat raced the waters between Santa Cruz and Pt Reyes.
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09-17-24, 03:39 PM
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1 oz of sealant = ~30grams.
then there's the sidewall suppleness, lacking on Sprinters and Gatorskins
Hard to take a light supple tire+casing and compare it to one made for toughness. Is the best of both worlds supple with ounces of sealant? I don't know, I no longer 'pre-load' tubulars with sealant (gave me valve concerns, even using only 1oz).
then there's the sidewall suppleness, lacking on Sprinters and Gatorskins
Hard to take a light supple tire+casing and compare it to one made for toughness. Is the best of both worlds supple with ounces of sealant? I don't know, I no longer 'pre-load' tubulars with sealant (gave me valve concerns, even using only 1oz).
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09-17-24, 05:32 PM
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And a follow-up about ride differences between tires and any valve clogging? after 6 months? Or after sitting unused for 2 months?
I love my 22mm Sprinters on an '86 DeRosa, but not for ride smoothness, nor puncture resistance (they have been puncture free, many miles). I ride 'em at 120psi so they feel fast and responsive - a quality frame then transmits road conditions so the rider can adjust appropriately. It's not a touring rig.
anecdotal, but verified = a buddy claimed sealant 'ruined' his pump. So, I asked the older mechanic at an lbs I visit at times - who said "clean and learn maintenance and technique". He was wrenching and did not elaborate, so basically = Yes.
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09-17-24, 08:21 PM
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