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Old 08-27-24, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by almico8
So I'm getting an Ostrich randonneur bag for the front rack.
I need a decaleur to support it. The one at Velo Orange looks good, but it needs 3mm of real estate on my 1" threaded steerer tube.
Something like this might allow you to do away with the spacer since it is a bit thicker than the existing cable stop and it might give a bit more spacing flexibility when adding the decaleur.



Also the steel will flex less than the current, pressed metal Dia Compe, stop when using the front brake. I have found they give a bit more of a "positive" feel when using the brake.

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Originally Posted by fender1
Something like this might allow you to do away with the spacer since it is a bit thicker than the existing cable stop and it might give a bit more spacing flexibility when adding the decaleur.



Also the steel will flex less than the current, pressed metal Dia Compe, stop when using the front brake. I have found they give a bit more of a "positive" feel when using the brake.

https://www.porkchopbmx.com/dia-comp...-stop-for.html
I'll have to see what happens when the decaleur arrives. The one that is on there now is pretty thin. Instead of being a flat ring, it is cupped for added support, so the actually occupied space is less than 2mm. Closer to 1-1/2. Most of the ones like you cited are 2-1/2--3mm thick. The spacer is 2mm, so tossing that and adding the 3mm decayer shouldn't be that much of an issue. Theoretically, I lose one thread. Nitto made a clamp-on quill hanger, but I can't seem to find on for sale. I have to mock it up to see what gets in the way of what when all the parts are here.
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This is a popular thread to say the least.

Did I see this bike on the back of a keep southbound on I 287 in New Jersey on 27th?
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Originally Posted by bluesteak
This is a popular thread to say the least.

Did I see this bike on the back of a keep southbound on I 287 in New Jersey on 27th?
I was certainly coming down 287 south in a white Jeep on July 27, bike in tow. Small world. It's uncanny that you would remember that and I had to look it up!!

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You were traveling faster than I was. I recognized it as likely a 720. I considered chasing you down but thought better of it.

Anyway that was a great catch, and it turned out fantastic.
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Originally Posted by almico8
Be careful what you ask for. This bike is a fun project for me, but the operative word is "project". It's been an interesting series of lessons. Just because the components of yesteryear were not as priority as they are today, doesn't mean everything fits everywhere on any bike. It's really been quite the puzzle sorting things out. And like most things in life, the destination is secondary to the journey. I've really enjoyed this particular journey and was happy to share it with anyone interested and more than grateful for all the help along the way.

The funny thing is, even with the anti-flashy paint job, this bike garners lots of attention. The vast majority of people have no idea what it is. To most it's an antique jalopy that escaped from a museum. To me, it's a bicycle, an ordinary bicycle, and this is what a bicycle looks like. Just one more piece of evidence that I'm older than I feel.


FWIW, even with everything that is on it now, it still comes in under 30#. Not way under, but under is under.
I had my 720 for a few years in a few "vintage" builds. I did a "mostly stock" and then a few different parts here and there and then a rebuild with a bunch of different parts- then I started getting more interested in doing a 10 speed rear end and started reading voraciously, perusing builds here and all over the internet. Eventually I settled on the idea that the 720 is a frame that doesn't deserve to be hampered by arbitrary constraints of "age." I started collecting stuff that I viewed as the best possible stuff, irrespective of vintage, that looked like it could belong on the bike. It was a stretch for me- but after it was done- it's just the best. I don't know if you've seen any of my multiple threads of my multiple builds of my 720- this one is probably the best: The Golden Boy's Trek 720 Re-Re-Re-Rebuild

It's kind of funny- a few years before when I got my 1985 Trek 620, a fellow forum member got a 1985 Trek 620 as well- where I hung onto the "vintage" thing and it took me 6 or so years to catch up on what he was doing- he wrote the book on how to tastefully upgrade a bike. Fuji Otaku: The Phoenix Project - The Rules Of The Game and his parallel thread on BF: New Trek 620


I guess what I'm trying to say is I love what you're doing with your bike and while you absolutely should enjoy the bike as you desire to- don't be afraid to use some of the technology of the intervening 40 years.

But don't make it look crappy and black component-y and swoopy and too carbon fiber-y. No one approves of that.
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I had my 720 for a few years in a few "vintage" builds. I did a "mostly stock" and then a few different parts here and there and then a rebuild with a bunch of different parts- then I started getting more interested in doing a 10 speed rear end and started reading voraciously, perusing builds here and all over the internet. Eventually I settled on the idea that the 720 is a frame that doesn't deserve to be hampered by arbitrary constraints of "age." I started collecting stuff that I viewed as the best possible stuff, irrespective of vintage, that looked like it could belong on the bike. It was a stretch for me- but after it was done- it's just the best. I don't know if you've seen any of my multiple threads of my multiple builds of my 720- this one is probably the best: The Golden Boy's Trek 720 Re-Re-Re-Rebuild

It's kind of funny- a few years before when I got my 1985 Trek 620, a fellow forum member got a 1985 Trek 620 as well- where I hung onto the "vintage" thing and it took me 6 or so years to catch up on what he was doing- he wrote the book on how to tastefully upgrade a bike. Fuji Otaku: The Phoenix Project - The Rules Of The Game and his parallel thread on BF: New Trek 620


I guess what I'm trying to say is I love what you're doing with your bike and while you absolutely should enjoy the bike as you desire to- don't be afraid to use some of the technology of the intervening 40 years.

But don't make it look crappy and black component-y and swoopy and too carbon fiber-y. No one approves of that.
Much appreciated and thanks for the links.

I hear ya about the upgrades. I just replaced the brake pads and depending how that goes, I might be looking at a new brake system altogether. Not sure what's out there.

Right now I like it as is. To be honest, it shifted a lot smoother with the Shimano hyper glide FW. I just had to push the shifter and it snapped into gear. With the Suntour I have to pull it past the cog I want and then back off a bit. It's definitely a little clunkier. But I kind of like that. I like that this bike is a time capsule to days gone by, and I enjoy riding this bike in 2024 the same way it was ridden in 1982.

I have a 1976 Porsche 911. It is a survivor with 128,000 miles and not much done except the early upgrades to offset the coming pollution crap of the mid-70s. For $300 I can "upgrade" the points and condenser ignition system to electronic and for another $700 I can replace that old "broomstick in a bucket" gear selector. But I haven't done either. I love this car exactly the way it is. When and if something becomes a problem, I'll address it. Till then, drive on.

I used to be a professional golf club fitter/builder/repairer in a former life. I knew Elmore Just of the Louisville Golf Company. He sadly passed several years ago, but the company is still making "woods" from genuine persimmon wood like they did 100 years ago. The raw cost of labor and materials to make a wooden driver 20 years ago was about $100, at a time when the cost of spitting out a Callaway Great Big Bertha was about $4. It took skilled labor and many mfg steps to make a wooden gold club and there wasn't much money left over to pay endorsement contracts to pros. It made little economic sense and he was constantly asked, "how come you still do it?" His answer was always, "When they stop working, I'll stop making them".

This bike was pretty much as built when I got it. It means more to me to keep it that way, than change it into something else. But now that I have that good old 531 feeling under my seat, I might just look for a similar vintage frame to bring up to date. But I will always prefer friction shifters. I have a 90s Merlin with Dura-Ace 8-speed and I can clickity click all I want on that. But it just sits in my living room. Different strokes for different folks.
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No sooner do I mention another 531 bike then this shows up. I'm going to see it tomorrow. It's a 57cm. I'm 6'1", but long in the torso with a 31" inseam. I tend to ride more upright. Too small?

This is a 1982 710 and the same bike I let go years ago. Dura-Ace cranks, brakes and levers, Cinelli stem and bar, Crane rear and 600 arabesque front derailleur and shifters, Mavic 27s x 1-1/8 tires. I have a brand new set of Continental 27 x 1-1/4" tires. I even have nice hubs that will take a 10-speed.


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Bought the 710…
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Originally Posted by almico8
Bought the 710…
Sounds like a new thread is fast approaching!
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Sounds like a new thread is fast approaching!
Working on it now.


https://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/1299460-1982-trek-710-survivor.html#post23336775

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Originally Posted by almico8
No sooner do I mention another 531 bike then this shows up. I'm going to see it tomorrow. It's a 57cm. I'm 6'1", but long in the torso with a 31" inseam. I tend to ride more upright. Too small?
Curious to hear if this one ends up working for you. I'm also 6'1" with longer torso and 58cm/23" frames are supposed to be "my size", but they always end up feeling too small for me. I usually need my bikes in the 60cm range to feel comfortable.
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Curious to hear if this one ends up working for you. I'm also 6'1" with longer torso and 58cm/23" frames are supposed to be "my size", but they always end up feeling too small for me. I usually need my bikes in the 60cm range to feel comfortable.
I'm going to ride it around a bit before I do anything drastic. A 45 minute ride will tell me whether or not a new stem will make it work or not.
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I would jump to this in a second. Always wanted a classic trek
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For me 58/23 frames have always (generally speaking) been for an average person of 5’10”-6’. I’m a very average 5’11” and it’s spot on for me.
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This thread is phenomenal. This bike is gorgeous! Inspiring me quite a lot.
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Saw the bike on FB and searched for the build thread here. Thanks for sharing, it's such a nice build.
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Got around to installing the decaleur this morning. Of course, there was grinding involved! It doubles as a nifty cable guide. Still waiting on the bag.


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I like how you're going all out on this bike.

I've never seen a Flickstand used with a fender. It does half the job, and if that's useful, why not.
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I like how you're going all out on this bike.

I've never seen a Flickstand used with a fender. It does half the job, and if that's useful, why not.
I'm trying to figure out where to mount the kitchen sink.

Wheel flop is the big issue with the flickstand for me. Stopping the front wheel is as easy as a stick jammed in the front brake lever. If it didn't come with it, I wouldn't be looking for one, but as long as it is there, I'll use it.
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You're never "done."
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