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Old 05-09-18, 01:20 PM
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Vintage Tire Care

Whats the best way to maintane a vintage tire from rotting? I live a hot place, someone told me to put some vaseline on the tire to help the rubber from cracking. Any advice? Thanks!
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On the bike, or in storage?
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Hermetically sealed in an impermeable container containing a noble gas (e.g. helium). Anything short of that isn't going to work. However, you said "vintage tire". That means it is already too late to undo any dry rot that has already happened.
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303 Aerospace protectant or even Armor All helps against UV. I used both over the years to keep the vinyl & rubber on my 1980 Mercedes diesel looking good. I think the 303 was best and used it exclusively in recent years. Don
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303 Aerospace protectant or even Armor All helps against UV. I used both over the years to keep the vinyl & rubber on my 1980 Mercedes diesel looking good. I think the 303 was best and used it exclusively in recent years. Don
+1 303 protectant is good stuff to have around, especially in hot areas. I think I did my bike tires with it once. Kind of tedious, but might be a good idea if they are to stay on for more than a year.
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Keep them out of humidity and UV (sun) light.

And if they are badly cracked, don't ride on them.
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Can I ask why you would want to preserve a consumable and not get a new tire? For myself rolling down the road on "all original " rubber, brake pads, and cables would not give me much piece of mind, I would constantly wonder when my 40 year-old side walls would blow out, or if the less than supple brake pads would arrest my forward progress, but then I did take old Nishiki out on a 2 mile ride once and what started as a 10 speed was a 1 speed on my return due to frayed cables. YMMV.

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And if they are badly cracked, don't ride on them.
noglider offers great advice, with that comment. Even if old tires look good, they might still let go, sometimes with a loud "bang" as was the case when I took my first PX10 out for its first test ride. A ride that ended with a bang and a long walk home...




The bang sound looked like this...

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Originally Posted by randyjawa
noglider offers great advice, with that comment. Even if old tires look good, they might still let go, sometimes with a loud "bang" as was the case when I took my first PX10 out for its first test ride. A ride that ended with a bang and a long walk home...
My 84 Stumpjumper came with a set of Ground Control tires. I thought they were pretty cool. I put a bunch of miles on them, even though they looked kind of... kreepy. One day I was riding to my brother in law's house, and I saw what I thought was a leaf stuck to the front tire... after a few rotations of it not coming off, I noticed it was rubbing against the fork- and I thought I'd run over some dog poo and then the leaf. When I stopped- I saw that the sidewall had split, and the inner tube was sticking out the side of the tire like a big thumb. I ended up walking the rest of the way to my BIL's house.
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These Turbo S's are over 20 years old. They've been mounted on the wheels for tha

t long, on the bike, hanging up a a spare room. No cracking or rot, just a little discoloration in the skinwalls. No special treatment. Would you ride on them?
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Dangerous discussion only because I don't want to be liable for what I say may or may not work for you.
I use a few coatings of campers seam sealer on the sidewalls only. There's a number of brands that mostly suffice the same, but I like to use the type packaged as liquid in a bottle with built in applicator. Use generously.
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Actually oxygen in our environment will cause them to deteriorate after some time. UV and ozone accelerates deterioration. Best way to preserve then is in a vacuum and in the dark, away from any electric motors..........maybe we can send our bikes to outer space storage on the dark side of the moon??...... I wonder how much that would cost monthly
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Originally Posted by Chombi1
..maybe we can send our bikes to outer space storage on the dark side of the moon??...... I wonder how much that would cost monthly
Then you have that pesky cosmic ray problem.
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Just to be blunt about it: riding vintage tires is generally a bad idea. Rubber and cotton decay with time. There are things you can do to make tires last longer, but after a few years have gone by, they really should be display only.
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Originally Posted by davester
Then you have that pesky cosmic ray problem.
Not to derail, but remember those 1960s books on the alien bases on the dark side we would find out about if man was fool enough to try to do a moon shot?
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My milage is now down to ~4,000 a year and with 17 bikes in the hanger in AZ I have had to deal with this. Best I found is what we use for C&V autos Aerospace 303 as mentioned above. One nice thing about the problem is tires have gotten a lot better ride and flat protection when they do need changing.
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rubber vs steel rubber logic

yes keep out the O2 coat with your choice of goo
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I live a hot place, someone told me to put some vaseline on the tire to help the rubber from cracking. Any advice?
I like the vaseline idea, because some of the vaseline will inevitably migrate to the rims, where it prevent friction-induced wear of your vintage brake pads when you apply the brakes. ;-)
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Doesn't petroleum jelly eat rubber?
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I don’t intend to ride old tires, my plan is to hang a vintage bike as decoration, and I’m looking to find ways to have the tires look nice and not so rotten.
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