Training with power
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Training with power
In case you didn’t know, training with power is all the rage. In fact, Joe Friel likens getting a power meter to a person with weak eyesight donning his first pair of glasses. Of course, the reality is that riding with a power meter is more like having sex with an electrocardiogram, in that it takes the fun out of the whole enterprise and buffets you with data you don’t really need. Physical sensation will guide you through your ride the same way it guides you through sex, and if you can’t do either without electronics it’s possible you have a problem that technology by itself may be insufficient to address.
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LOL! How many times have I seen where PE does not match force generated at the pedals or heart rate? Too many times, especially when one is getting a little "over done".
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In case you didn’t know, training with power is all the rage. In fact, Joe Friel likens getting a power meter to a person with weak eyesight donning his first pair of glasses. Of course, the reality is that riding with a power meter is more like having sex with an electrocardiogram, in that it takes the fun out of the whole enterprise and buffets you with data you don’t really need. Physical sensation will guide you through your ride the same way it guides you through sex, and if you can’t do either without electronics it’s possible you have a problem that technology by itself may be insufficient to address.
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I'm done opening threads on power. every time I do, I think either:
a) my power tap is calibrated low,
b) everyone else's power thingy's are calibrated way too high, or
c) that I just suck.
None of these is good for my confidence.
a) my power tap is calibrated low,
b) everyone else's power thingy's are calibrated way too high, or
c) that I just suck.
None of these is good for my confidence.
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Attacking the power meter? You have just become the Salman Rushdie of Bike Forums.
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You're just not putting in the BF, (or more accurately, the BS) conversion factor.
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...am I the only one who has had sex while wearing a HRM just for kicks?
/i don't do it all the time
//just once, in fact.
///I've been severely underestimating my MHR
/i don't do it all the time
//just once, in fact.
///I've been severely underestimating my MHR
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I'm just going to use two cheap 10$ Radio Crack Multimeters and measure Voltage and Amperes. And voila, power meter on the cheap.
I cannot understand how that Schwag can cost almost a 1000$ or more when I can build it for 20$.
I cannot understand how that Schwag can cost almost a 1000$ or more when I can build it for 20$.
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Ok, build one that works reliably, and doesn't weigh more that 250grams, and I'l give you $40 for your trouble.
If it were that easy, somebody would build the $20 powermeter, sell it for $300, make a very nice profit and put SRM, Saris, etc out of business.
One big problem I'm sure is the limited manufacturing scale.
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Not sure how my wife took the info that my heart rate got much higher during a ride...
Not sure she cared
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I always enjoy seeing hippies in badly tuned, blue smoking 18 MPG VW's that leave a big puddle of oil when they park driving to the next tree sit with a "Save the Earth" and "No Blood for Oil" bumpersticker pasted on the back.
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In case you didn’t know, training with power is all the rage. In fact, Joe Friel likens getting a power meter to a person with weak eyesight donning his first pair of glasses. Of course, the reality is that riding with a power meter is more like having sex with an electrocardiogram, in that it takes the fun out of the whole enterprise and buffets you with data you don’t really need. Physical sensation will guide you through your ride the same way it guides you through sex, and if you can’t do either without electronics it’s possible you have a problem that technology by itself may be insufficient to address.
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Its not that hard to have fun with power. You guys DO know that the head unit is removable right? Which means if you wanna just go ride your bike and not worry about how weak you are then you can just take it off. And then if you feel like training with power just put the head unit back on. GASP
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No. That's too logical.
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Probably more fun putting the HRM on her and seeing how high of a reading you can get.