Snow Plow Near-Miss of the Week
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Snow Plow Near-Miss of the Week
https://velonews.com/article/71866
Also check the blog...with the Rearward-facing video camera footage, no less.
Also check the blog...with the Rearward-facing video camera footage, no less.
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Wow! I would be done riding for that week.
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Dang! I am sooo glad I went through everything to see this. Kudos to him for this!
I wish I had the money for two cameras!!
I cannot believe the response from the city. Well... maybe I can, but it sucks!
Go Jeff!!!
I wish I had the money for two cameras!!
I cannot believe the response from the city. Well... maybe I can, but it sucks!
Go Jeff!!!
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How often do you guys ride while the snow is still falling and the plows are out? I couldn't bring myself to do such a thing. There are always single and multi car accidents around here when it snows and it isn't really that safe to be out in a car, nevermind on a bike! I'd be worried about getting hit accidently by a car or a plow.
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However, when I can't get off right away, I expect the drivers to have at least a minimum concern for my safety. A couple weeks ago the ruts were so bad I couldn't steer to the side when a phalanx of three plows was overtaking me. To their credit, all three drivers pulled up their blades and went into the next lane to overtake me. And they didn't even spray me with salt--as has happened to me in the past.
Anyway, I admire you for reporting this to Bob Mionske and following through with the supervisor and the police. I also admire your bike handling skills in the snow. You do a lot better than I do!
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How often do you guys ride while the snow is still falling and the plows are out? I couldn't bring myself to do such a thing. There are always single and multi car accidents around here when it snows and it isn't really that safe to be out in a car, nevermind on a bike! I'd be worried about getting hit accidently by a car or a plow.
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Also Clifbar, you were really hauling ass in that vid! What kinda tires are you riding on? I'm guessing it's something fairly narrow cause that snow looked heavy to me, or was it light fluffy stuff?
Edit: After reviewing the video there doesn't seem to be as much snow as I recalled.
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There's no excuse for this plow driver's behavior, the risks accepted by the cyclist are never an accuse for assault with a deadly weapon (plow).
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I accept that all plows will be driven at the edge of control by someone who may not have slept for a day. If there is a plow gaining on me, I bail as soon as I can, whether in a car or on a bike. Bailing is easier on a bike - that's a key reason for riding under these conditions. It's not just safety and common courtesy - if the snow is deep enough so that I can't go quite as fast as the plow, it's a good bet that I can match the speed of the plow once it passes and I am riding/driving on the cleared road. There it is - help other road users by allowing the plow top go faster, maintain safety, and have a faster and easir trip to my destination. It is inconcievable to me that someone would not do this.
Based upon the video, the plow driver was operating relatively safely. He turned out of the way and appeared to give a normal passing margin. There is always a wall of flying snow when a plow passes - that's why you always should bail. The cyclist was selfish and, in the end, likely delayed himself by failing to immediately pull over. I feel the resulting exchange of complaints was destructive to the cause of winter cycling and could encourage people to drive, rather than cycle, during a storm -- a result that would complicate snow removal and increase congestion.
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More miles are driven on dry roads in good visibility. Speeds are higher. Etc. The crash that won't kill a driver (slow speed slide off the road in snow, for example) could easily be fatal to a cyclist, and those crashes are MUCH more common in the snow (per mile driven, per hour, whatever) than they are in the dry.
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Everyone has their own safety limits, but I generally avoid moderate to high traffic roads during and directly after a snow fall because I know I can't trust drivers.
Many of them feel it's your fault if they kill you. The peep hole drivers are the scariest. You've seen the ones peeking through a soft ball size hole in the snow because obviously clearing the entire windshield would be too time consuming.
In spite of all of that though, you absolutely have a right to use the road, and it's even more unforgivable for a city employee and professional driver to threaten your life.
Many of them feel it's your fault if they kill you. The peep hole drivers are the scariest. You've seen the ones peeking through a soft ball size hole in the snow because obviously clearing the entire windshield would be too time consuming.
In spite of all of that though, you absolutely have a right to use the road, and it's even more unforgivable for a city employee and professional driver to threaten your life.
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I don't see it as being inordinately dangerous as long as you can keep the bike upright. If I can't keep it upright, I'll walk--but that doesn't happen very often or very long. (In my five winters of bike commuting I walked to work twice.)
My feeling is always "I'd sure hate to be driving when the weather's this bad!"
My feeling is always "I'd sure hate to be driving when the weather's this bad!"
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Toronto has a substantial year-round cycling population and I have never heard of anything like this happening. Most cars travel pretty slow in the snow, to the point that they are generally going slower than I ride.
Perhaps things are different where you ride.
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I guess I'll have to beg to differ on the likleyhood of this scenario.
Toronto has a substantial year-round cycling population and I have never heard of anything like this happening. Most cars travel pretty slow in the snow, to the point that they are generally going slower than I ride.
Perhaps things are different where you ride.
Toronto has a substantial year-round cycling population and I have never heard of anything like this happening. Most cars travel pretty slow in the snow, to the point that they are generally going slower than I ride.
Perhaps things are different where you ride.
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Wow .... just wow.
What is it about riding a bicycle that makes even our sworn police officers ignore the law? To make matters worse, the other officials ALL feel the same. Their obvious answer = get the hell of the road with that bike!
Our answer ............ we're going to fight for our rights until you pry our collective cold, dead fingers from around our handle bars!
... Brad
What is it about riding a bicycle that makes even our sworn police officers ignore the law? To make matters worse, the other officials ALL feel the same. Their obvious answer = get the hell of the road with that bike!
Our answer ............ we're going to fight for our rights until you pry our collective cold, dead fingers from around our handle bars!
... Brad