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Old 03-15-05, 05:54 PM
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"race lace"?

What is this? I have seen it mentioned in articles online regarding wheels, and other cycling forums. I just have not found a place that explains what it is, can somebody enlighten me?
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I believe race lace is 3 leading 3 trailing. https://www.terminalvelocity.demon.co...d/3leading.htm
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Oh, thanks. Do you know if it offers any advantage? Is finding spoke length the same as 3x?
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Yeah, you got me. I suspect there's no advantage. Competitive advantage on most patterns is close to nil. Sad but true.
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ah ha,you guy got me curious. so I googled "race lace" wheels. surprisingly enough, I got an answer from the bikeforums archive:

Originally Posted by cogito
As for "race lacing", there have been lots of articles written by some of the better known wheelsmiths, i.e. Jobst Brandt nd others, the conclusions of which don't support any one particular lace method. The aim of race lace(all spokes are head in) is to increase lateral stability of the wheel. It's hard on spokes, so breakage is common. Unless you need the tiny little bit of extra stability, then I suggest forgoing it
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I'll stick with conventional 3X, thank you.
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me too. I dont like the sound of having all the heads in, for 3 cross that would mean some steep bends and i just cant accept that as good
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Spokes breaking is a good way to toss whatever stability you have to hell.
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I worked for Brian Scura at his shop call B.S. Bikes back in the late 70's early 80's when he was developing the race lace. I had the first set of 26" wheels that were race laced on my GT cruiser. Back then we used Campy high flange hubs with a track axle. Later on he made a special race lace hub
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You may end up with a laterally-stiffer wheel. But does that really help you in anyway? Like in measurable results, such as does it make you faster?

It does put more stress on the bend in the spoke and will lead to faster spoke-fatigue. But if you're the type that'll taco a wheel well before the spokes wear-out, maybe that little bit extra radial-stiffness might help somewhat...
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